Multiple suicide bombings reported at Kabul Airport. Americans among killed.

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it doesn't matter. Biden fukked up this entire process and he will be blamed.

Democrats wouldn't have a lost any votes if they decided to stay in Afghanistan..that is status quo

such a unecessary self goal




Why do you feel Americans should have stayed there? Are you saying the US should occupy Afghanistan ad infinitum?
 

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75,000 civilians died in last 20 years of Afghan war. Average of 3,000 civilians a year past decade.

Just look through this list to see how many terror attacks took place in Kabul in last 5 years: List of terrorist attacks in Kabul - Wikipedia

Why didnt anyone resign/care when any of the above happened?

None made any front page or breaking news coverage in the US. Its like US media/politicians have awoken from a coma and suddenly care about Afghanistan again, after ignoring it for 10 years.
You are absolutely right the problem is you go against the military industrial complex and everyone in power will be on your ass.
 
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He didn't have the political capital to do it. Can you imagine if this happened under Obama’s presidency?

:snoop: I'm glad he didn't do it. This needed a white president's face on it.

More than likely he set the stage for it and expected Hillary to complete the withdrawal once she won


There was more power and a “foot on neck”
mentality nine years ago then there is today that would have helped minimize this amount of fukkery. I’m not saying it would have been perfect but there’s little to NO chance the Taliban take over as quicky in 2013 as they did in 2021


Like I said I was there during that time period. We were literally sent to tear shyt down and start the process of getting everyone the hell out. I saw it first hand
 

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This will be his legacy :francis: piss poor planning because of a piss poor decision. The refugee situation is going to be another story.

I actually have my concerns about this situation as it seems like a disaster waiting to happen depending on where the loyalties of those refugees actually lie and if they're actually who they say they are. If you get what I mean........
 
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There was more power and a “foot on neck”
mentality nine years ago then there is today that would have helped minimize this amount of fukkery. I’m not saying it would have been perfect but there’s little to NO chance the Taliban take over as quicky in 2013 as they did in 2021


Like I said I was there during that time period. We were literally sent to tear shyt down and start the process of getting everyone the hell out. I saw it first hand




Are you sure about this?

I've never been there but from the outside looking in, the Afghan military does not want to fight the taliban and the taliban obviously know this.

What would have stopped them from swooping in in 2013?
 

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Why do you feel Americans should have stayed there? Are you saying the US should occupy Afghanistan ad infinitum?
why should Biden and the democrats fall on their swords for this?
they weren't elected to pull out

you think that the dems will be able to talk their way out of this and blame trump, but they won't

Republicans will win midterms and then you have a lame duck president until 2024
 

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They essentially didn’t have a choice. This entire occupation has been a shyt show. This “pull out” is literally nine years too late for the American government to have any type of heavy handed say so in how it goes down. Obama wanted this done in 2013 and THATS when it should have happened post haste

Yeah Obama should have held his ground, particularly because it was his second term. This should never be a political issue but I could understand the pushback a bit more in his first term...maybe. Simply because its risky to change status quo.
 

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A reporter brought up a worst case scenario like this last week I believe where they mentioned that the Biden Presidency would potentially be negatively effected if there were any US causalities while trying to get citizens out of the country :francis:
This is what I was saying in the Taliban thread, this whole situation is gonna fukk Biden’s presidential term all the way up
 
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Are you sure about this?

I've never been there but from the outside looking in, the Afghan military does not want to fight the taliban and the taliban obviously know this.

What would have stopped them from swooping in in 2013?




I’m not saying they never would have taken control, Taliban taking control over the region was always inevitable. I’m saying it would have taken more than a damn week and we would have had a MUCH more uniform and disciplined method of evacuating, at the very least, American citizens before the shyt hit the fan
 
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what would happen if we sent 300,000 marines
to secure the airport? flood the skies of Afghanistan
with thousands of drones. after the 300,000 have a
foothold, expand out from there until the city is retaken.
then build a wall around the entire city and hood it up
with super fast internet and 5g cell tech. they'll be too
busy watching Netflix to bother with fighting.
 

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The only thing this matters to is people who didnt like Biden to begin, military industrialists, and imperialists.

A lot of yall exposing yourselves

Yep. Biden fukked up.

This will be his legacy :francis: piss poor planning because of a piss poor decision. The refugee situation is going to be another story.
 
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