Monique - lets boycott Netflix for Racism and Sexism

[macadomusic]

doesn't matter,the first part applied to him,he has a classic comedy special and a classic t.v show that gets aired over and over again that people rewatch. Thats valuable to a streaming platform. Plus Chapelle is an all time great,are you guys even pretending to not understand why he and Chris Rock would get way more than Monique?

The argument isn't what Dave and Chris gets. Its what Monique ISNT getting breh.

 

[Benefited]

dude what are you talking about? netflix caught her show twice, for free, lowball her on purpose so they can profit

Netflix still hasn't said anything and this is the third time she makes it clear that her argument has nothing to do with whether Rock, Dave, or Amy deserves their money OR Who's funnier.

But will that stop yall from blindly caping for Netflix and focus on what's actually is said? no.


lol. Fascinating how the human mind works...

-Koons and self serving nikkas that do whatever at the expense of Blackfolks in order to get that check, are publicly frowned upon, but privately, I'm now starting to think many of you are envious

-while in the climate of #meToo and #TimeUp, where white bytches are being offered alot of money and opportunities to be silent, they are being praised for not being silent to cash a check

-the black parents of the little boy modeling that "king monkey in the jungle" or whatever that was, is being criticized for co-signing racist messages for a check

...but in this situation, a Black woman turning down money for how she's treated, it's spooky. You nikkas gotta be consistent

I don't like that implication @Bittasweet,black peoples only crime here would be maybe that we don't know how much the average black comedian makes. If this were a Katt Williams or a Mike Epps I would be behind them 100%,and even then 500K wouldn't sound horrible to me but they would have leverage to ask for more imo. I'm sorry 500K just doesn't sound like a disrespectful case of low balling to me for someone at Moniques level. The only reason it sounds low is because of the comparisons she is making to what Chapelle,Rock and Shumer got paid. Even if she's not saying she deserved as much,that is not a fair comparison for us to say she got lowballed,as it is painfully obvious why she wouldn't get offered near the ammount they did.

She has to find out what well known,mediocre black comedians who only have a black audience,and never pulled money at the box office are being offered by netflix. Plus you have to realize what her fellow comedians are accepting make up her market value. If Eddie Griffin for example,who has been more succesful and is far funnier than Monique will accept 500K or less,500K would not be considered lowballing from Netflix perspective. She really needs to find out what her fellow black comedians are taking,wouldn't be suprised if its less than 500K. Excuse us for not knowing the comedian pay scales,but 500K doesn't seem bad based on my own appraisal of Monique.

I have no problem with her turning it down if she thinks she's worth more though. But the burning bridges and pulling the race card is a bad look based on her shytty examples.

 

[Benefited]

if her point is that we should all start demanding more for our talents thats fine. I believe that to be the case for many of our talented people. But like I said this hurts her credibility from her other arguments. Now I have to question if she went to Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels talking about what Will Smith,Denzel and Jennifer Anniston make during negotiations

just like lowballing is a real thing,so is pricing yourself out.

 

[jackson35]

I don't like that implication @Bittasweet,black peoples only crime here would be maybe that we don't know how much the average black comedian makes. If this were a Katt Williams or a Mike Epps I would be behind them 100%,and even then 500K wouldn't sound horrible to me but they would have leverage to ask for more imo. I'm sorry 500K just doesn't sound like a disrespectful case of low balling to me for someone at Moniques level. The only reason it sounds low is because of the comparisons she is making to what Chapelle,Rock and Shumer got paid. Even if she's not saying she deserved as much,that is not a fair comparison for us to say she got lowballed,as it is painfully obvious why she wouldn't get offered near the ammount they did.

She has to find out what well known,mediocre black comedians who only have a black audience,and never pulled money at the box office are being offered by netflix. Plus you have to realize what her fellow comedians are accepting make up her market value. If Eddie Griffin for example,who has been more succesful and is far funnier than Monique will accept 500K or less,500K would not be considered lowballing from Netflix perspective. She really needs to find out what her fellow black comedians are taking,wouldn't be suprised if its less than 500K. Excuse us for not knowing the comedian pay scales,but 500K doesn't seem bad based on my own appraisal of Monique.

I have no problem with her turning it down if she thinks she's worth more though. But the burning bridges and pulling the race card is a bad look based on her shytty examples.

this is the reason why your not qualified to speak on the shyt, monique has been putting in work for years which paid off in many dividends in many different areas of entertainment. what you don't know is netflix contact her to do this, they asked for free tickets to attended two sold out events and film the shyt with permission from her camp. then want to come back and low ball her. this not about her, this is about her audience, netflix does not have to work hard to get black woman hooked on netflix

 

[Benefited]

this is the reason why your not qualified to speak on the shyt, monique has been putting in work for years which paid off in many dividends in many different areas of entertainment. what you don't know is netflix contact her to do this, they asked for free tickets to attended two sold out events and film the shyt with permission from her camp. then want to come back and low ball her. this not about her, this is about her audience, netflix does not have to work hard to get black woman hooked on netflix

This all sounds vague and like a lack of receipts,putting in work,paid off in many dividends,and many different areas huh? All she needed was box office receipts of all the movies she's played the lead role,instagram following things like that,even those ratings from The Parkers.

Them filming her doesn't mean they had to offer her whatever she wanted so I'm not sure why that matters. Maybe I'm not qualified,maybe your not qualified,maybe she's not qualified. She's just not bringing any real reasoning to the table other than what she feels about her own worth. I am black and don't find Monique to be a comedy treasure in stand up. Secondary roles in movies and tv would be places where she would have high negotiating power for me,she's a scene stealer.

Netflix is a streaming service,maybe they take internet platforms and followings into consideration. Just because you have shows that are sold out doesn't mean you have an audience that would use a platform like Netflix. I would like to see Netflix explain the analytics,but they are bound to appear racist anyway. Because we know for a fact they are taking into account Monique doesn't appeal to white fans,thats going to cut into your pay. Black people don't like to hear that,but sure aren't in a rush to not run to these europeans for their appraisal.Then get upset when they don't like what they hear,white people don't like Monique like that,this came up in that Netflix meeting.

 

[Gains]

Do you consider Amy a legend ?

dont care about her tbh

 

[jackson35]

This all sounds vague and like a lack of receipts,putting in work,paid off in many dividends,and many different areas huh? All she needed was box office receipts of all the movies she's played the lead role,instagram following things like that,even those ratings from The Parkers.

Them filming her doesn't mean they had to offer her whatever she wanted so I'm not sure why that matters. Maybe I'm not qualified,maybe your not qualified,maybe she's not qualified. She's just not bringing any real reasoning to the table other than what she feels about her own worth. I am black and don't find Monique to be a comedy treasure in stand up. Secondary roles in movies and tv would be places where she would have high negotiating power for me,she's a scene stealer.

Netflix is a streaming service,maybe they take internet platforms and followings into consideration. Just because you have shows that are sold out doesn't mean you have an audience that would use a platform like Netflix. I would like to see Netflix explain the analytics,but they are bound to appear racist anyway. Because we know for a fact they are taking into account Monique doesn't appeal to white fans,thats going to cut into your pay. Black people don't like to hear that,but sure aren't in a rush to not run to these europeans for their appraisal.Then get upset when they don't like what they hear,white people don't like Monique like that,this came up in that Netflix meeting.

what those receipts will show that most of her appearances were highly rateds, live gigs sold out. books on nyt best seller list. if your going to film her show,you should pay a certain fee get it? they got two free shows on camera without telling her, so when it's time to turkey, they want to act like turkeys. white entertainment companys has made money off black comedy for years to the point of being billionares, now black folk want to support white talent buyers who are clearly exploiting black artist

 

[macadomusic]

I feel like black folks made Netflix hot . The whole "Netflix and chill" shyt is us. I watch a lot of Netflix. Monique is one of the very few black ......wait FEMALE black comediannes with a strong following . Those points alone should give you an idea of how a much money would cake off of a Monique special. Monique and Tyler Perry have the same audience I feel and id be DAMN if they came at Tyler with some shyt like this. I a Garauntee her special will be on the roster for over a year. There's a a chick on Netflix named Anjelah something. Shorty got like 4 Netflix specials on the roster at one time. Most people never heard of her and she's hella funny . howd she get so many specials, who knows. But where is her catalogue of movies, tv shows, etc..... . I just don't think y'all value Moniques track record like you should .

 

[TL15]

Don't know if it's been said or not but what is stopping her and Sykes and other comedians, women, actors, whatever else, from starting their own Netflix competitor if they feel their content is that in demand?

Monique has got to be liquid more than 10 million dollars on her own. Why not partner with a private equity firm to provide a competitor?

Why not partner with other comedians to start an on demand comedy portal?

Why not get with a young black or female (or black female) STEM graduate and develop an app that can deliver content to those who may want it?

Why not link with Tyler Perry or Oprah and create an independent on demand entertainment platform?

Why not fund her own "One night in New York" special, film it on her own, and then sell it to Comedy Central, or HBO, or Showtime?

Why not grind on some underground circuits...popping up randomly, becoming viral with her content and then creating a new demand for herself? Hit the pavement and generate buzz and go back to Netflix once you have some content that is more in demand...

Or any amount of other ideas

I think that is what is great (in some cases) about competition. If she is in demand and can get her money...then she will. If she is wanting to rely on her past success and feels that someone else isn't paying her "what she is worth" then she should hustle and get it where she can. Nothing is stopping her from doing any of these, or anything else.

 

[Benefited]

what those receipts will show that most of her appearances were highly rateds, live gigs sold out. books on nyt best seller list. if your going to film her show,you should pay a certain fee get it? they got two free shows on camera without telling her, so when it's time to turkey, they want to act like turkeys. white entertainment companys has made money off black comedy for years to the point of being billionares, now black folk want to support white talent buyers who are clearly exploiting black artist

She didn't see a camera crew in the audience

Maybe they showed up with cameras without asking but I don't believe she didn't notice somebody filming and wasn't told in advance,and she could have said no at that time. Its not like they can use it without her permission anyway though,I see the ego on their side though,they assumed she would jump at 500K. I don't see why else you would film before filling out the paperwork,it was a foregone conclusion for them.

She is asking people to boycott netlix,so I think i have the right to want to see a good reason that I should.

As a black person would you boycott anything I told you to boycott just because I felt offended. Black people being lowballed right here in america everyday and globally,as well as robbed and pillaged.Yet you nikkas ain't boycotting shyt,probably didn't even boycott the outright racist NFL this season. Yet want to call out c00n because we not jumping right out the window to boycott Netflix on Moniques SO FAR,shaky reasoning

 

[Benefited]

Don't know if it's been said or not but what is stopping her and Sykes and other comedians, women, actors, whatever else, from starting their own Netflix competitor if they feel their content is that in demand?

Monique has got to be liquid more than 10 million dollars on her own. Why not partner with a private equity firm to provide a competitor?

Why not partner with other comedians to start an on demand comedy portal?

Why not get with a young black or female (or black female) STEM graduate and develop an app that can deliver content to those who may want it?

Why not link with Tyler Perry or Oprah and create an independent on demand entertainment platform?

Why not fund her own "One night in New York" special, film it on her own, and then sell it to Comedy Central, or HBO, or Showtime?

Why not grind on some underground circuits...popping up randomly, becoming viral with her content and then creating a new demand for herself? Hit the pavement and generate buzz and go back to Netflix once you have some content that is more in demand...

Or any amount of other ideas

I think that is what is great (in some cases) about competition. If she is in demand and can get her money...then she will. If she is wanting to rely on her past success and feels that someone else isn't paying her "what she is worth" then she should hustle and get it where she can. Nothing is stopping her from doing any of these, or anything else.

Maybe she will work with Kevin Harts "Laugh Out Loud" network. But lets be honest,most black people want the bag they can get right now, versus being pioneers and helping build something from the ground up. They would rather be "low balled" by cacs,than to be underpaid by a startup black platform that as much as they would like to be able to pay more, can't quite afford it yet.

 

[TL15]

Maybe she will work with Kevin Harts "Laugh Out Loud" network. But lets be honest,most black people want the bag they can get right now, versus being pioneers and helping build something from the ground up. They would rather be "low balled" by cacs,than to be underpaid by a startup black platform that as much as they would like to be able to pay more, can't quite afford it yet.

I don't know that I agree with "most" but I get what you're saying.

It's funny how easily the narrative could've been from:

Netflix isn't paying me... DON'T support them"

to

"Netflix isn't paying me... SUPPORT me in my new venture XYZ"

 

[Gains]

how much did the Lucas bros make in their special

 

[Benefited]

I don't know that I agree with "most" but I get what you're saying.

It's funny how easily the narrative could've been from:

Netflix isn't paying me... DON'T support them"

to

"Netflix isn't paying me... SUPPORT me in my new venture XYZ"

Yup,but usually its "Hey brothas and sistas,put the pressure on _____ to pay me/hire me". ____ being some rich white corporation or boys club.

Another crazy thing is after all this we've seen with the NFL,black folks apparently still believe that being paid handsomely by whites and non blacks, must mean an absence of racism

So if you think Netflix paying Dave Chapelle or Chris Rock alot of money means they can't be racist,you are naive too. But I guess we don't mind working for,and supporting racist and potentially racist platforms like the NFL or Netflix,as long as they are paying black people what we think is fair,or enough to make us shut up. Even though that is still making the person you consider racist more wealthy than the black talent. But until she proves racism or black talents unite and create a better alternative. We can't tell black people they shouldn't work for netflix or support black talent on netflix.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

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