Modern humans have existed for 300,000 years but Abrahamic religions are only 3500 years old
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I posted a link to the news paper so everyone could see. What did I lie about?Men don’t evaluate information based off feelings. I said what article said and you lied and pretended it didn’t
And no I said when cameras became widespread. 10 centuries of building the same style until they finally decide to switch it up right when more eyes and cameras were on them? Give it up breh. Cacs didn’t the shyt they claim to have built…
Look at the words you capitalized. Besides mounds and pyramids, the section using those capitalized descriptors in what you posted (and it's missing a part about the hieroglyphics) are used in the 4 or 5 paragraphs where he is talking about Mexico. He starts it off with:
" But it is the south of Mexico that magnificent and beautiful ruins present themselves in abundance. Ruins of majestic cities and magnificent temples and altars, beautiful works of sculpture, tastefully wrought; palaces adorned with paintings -- colors chiefly sky-blue and light green -- which show by their richness and elegance, to be the work of highly cultivated people. "
Raftsman's journal. [volume] (Clearfield, Pa.) 1854-1948, January 06, 1858, Image 1
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chroniclingamerica.loc.gov
You have to read the whole article to get the context of it all.
I posted a link of the United States references and you can see it was nothing that someone wouldnt expect to see.
Dump Trucks were invented in the late 1800s so you lied about that too and didn't bother to look it up.
36 page essay on the entire clean up process:
1908 dump truck
Steam tractor during earthquake recovery in 1906 San Fransisco
Workers manning cranes remove debris so rebuilding can begin
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Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
To be able to do these things consistently around the world BY HAND would be a phenomenal feat. That’s mastery of construction that rivals (imo it’s better but that’s opinion) what’s being built today with machinery and more people around and it was done all around the world. Cacs didn’t build any of these things and it hurts you when I say that
Wait, first you said that we didnt have the knowledge to make gothic and neo-classical architecture anymore, yet now that Ive showing you cathedrals built in a similar style in Japan we do suddenly have the ability, but it doesnt mean anything because we arent building this shyt by hand?
Why would the Japanese build cathedrals by hand? Thats like saying why do we use computers instead of type writers. My god. What is going on inside your head?
Btw you have presented no evidence about what this ancient mythical civilization looked or acted like. What race were they? Here are some churches literally carved out of volcanic rock in Ethiopia in the 12th century. We know this because we have written documentation and historical record from that society describing its construction
Architecture of Ethiopia - Wikipedia
And I’ll take the Japanese cathedrals one at a time. The one above was built in 1891 just like all these other structures that got built before camera use was widespread. Of course when cameras became more widespread they ”decide” to stop using this style
So Japan had a European style cathedral located within one of its busiest population centers during the time of the Shoguns but nobody in Japan thought to write about even though Japan has been keeping extensive historical records about its civilization dating back to the first Emperors?
Btw, you said you are going to go through each Cathedral one at a time. When were the others built. Im waiting.
Umm the alleged technology difference is what separates the two…
They’re not building a 270 ft high hotel in 1893 when travel wasn’t widespread at the time to need a 610 room hotel. Just as they’re not building a 5+ story post office in Boston in the 1800s…
Travel wasnt widespread at the time.
This was post industrial revolution. 50 years post the invention of the steam ship. There was so much trafffic we dug out the Erie Canal.The construction of the Erie Canal was a landmark civil engineering achievement in the early history of the United States. When built, the 363-mile (584 km) canal was the second-longest in the world (after the Grand Canal in China). Initially 40 feet (12 m) wide and 4 feet (1.2 m) deep, the canal was expanded several times, most notably from 1905 to 1918 when the "Barge Canal" was built and over half the original route was abandoned. The modern Barge Canal measures 351 miles (565 km) long, 120 feet (37 m) wide, and 12 feet (3.7 m) deep. It has 34 locks, including the Waterford Flight, the steepest locks in the United States. When leaving the canal, boats must also traverse the Black Rock Lock to reach Lake Erie or the Troy Federal Lock to reach the tidal Hudson. The overall elevation difference is about 565 feet (172 m).
Erie's peak year was 1855, when 33,000 commercial shipments took place. It continued to be competitive with railroads until about 1902, when tolls were abolished.
Erie Canal - Wikipedia
This dude really thinking the United States and Canada were barren wastelands before 1965. My guy, where are you from? What kind of schooling were you subjected to?
port of Quebec 1900
Bro, you are hilarious.
What the article says was in America matches the style of everything I posted.
Where does it describe specific buildings you are referencing? Why didnt they come out and say the Boston post office was already in America? The White House was already in America? That San Francisco already had hundreds of Roman style buildings? Why do they make vague references to architecture in Mexico but dont describe in detail any of the buildings you are talking about now?
You know why? Becuase they werent that crazy. Think on it.
The new Indiana Jones movie costs 300 million to make and distribute. So you are saying that the government spent less on a theme park than one movie studio is spending to make a movie today.
I posted a link to the news paper so everyone could see. What did I lie about?
Look at the words you capitalized. Besides mounds and pyramids, the section using those capitalized descriptors in what you posted (and it's missing a part about the hieroglyphics) are used in the 4 or 5 paragraphs where he is talking about Mexico. He starts it off with:
" But it is the south of Mexico that magnificent and beautiful ruins present themselves in abundance. Ruins of majestic cities and magnificent temples and altars, beautiful works of sculpture, tastefully wrought; palaces adorned with paintings -- colors chiefly sky-blue and light green -- which show by their richness and elegance, to be the work of highly cultivated people. "
Raftsman's journal. [volume] (Clearfield, Pa.) 1854-1948, January 06, 1858, Image 1
Raftsman's journal. [volume] (Clearfield, Pa.) 1854-1948, January 06, 1858, Image 1, brought to you by Penn State University Libraries; University Park, PA, and the National Digital Newspaper Program.
You have to read the whole article to get the context of it all.
I posted a link of the United States references and you can see it was nothing that someone wouldnt expect to see.
The antiquities of America extend from the Eastern shores of Maine and Massachusetts to the Pacific, and from the great lakes and British dominions to Perf and La Platta in South America; in fact, throughout the extent of the continents. Immense forests grow over the ruins of large cities, and the gigantic size of the trees, which indications that other generations of trees sprung up and grew before them, proves the the ruins were in existence before the Christian era. In every portion of the United States interesting ruins have been found, sculptured figures of one hundred animals of different species, executed in a style far surpassing the Indians. The State of Ohio abounds in ruins at towns and fortifications, with extensive towers and pyramids, At Marietta, and in Missouri, beautiful pottery, silver and copper ornaments, and pearls of great beauty and lustre, have been dug from the earth. In the caves of Tennessee and Kentucky, mummies have been found, in a high state of preservation, clothed with cloths and skins of various texture, inlaid with features. Like discoveries have been made at Carolton, near Milwakie, in the State of Wisconsin — ruins of huge fortifications appear. Similar ruins appear in the State of Missouri. On the south side of the Missouri river, in the western portion of the State, is an enclosure of some five hundred acres, which includes the ruins of a building (no doubt an ancient tower) with walls one hundred feet high, and eighty at the base attached to which are a redoubt and citadel, with work much resembling the structure of a tower in Europe.
The article is saying the best of all this was in Central America/Mexico area not that all of it was in Central America.
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What?Wait, first you said that we didnt have the knowledge to make gothic and neo-classical architecture anymore, yet now that Ive showing you cathedrals built in a similar style in Japan we do suddenly have the ability, but it doesnt mean anything because we arent building this shyt by hand?
Why would the Japanese build cathedrals by hand? Thats like saying why do we use computers instead of type writers. My god. What is going on inside your head?
Btw you have presented no evidence about what this ancient mythical civilization looked or acted like. What race were they? Here are some churches literally carved out of volcanic rock in Ethiopia in the 12th century. We know this because we have written documentation and historical record from that society describing its construction
unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Ethiopia[/URL]
So Japan had a European style cathedral located within one of its busiest population centers during the time of the Shoguns but nobody in Japan thought to write about even though Japan has been keeping extensive historical records about its civilization dating back to the first Emperors?
Btw, you said you are going to go through each Cathedral one at a time. When were the others built. Im waiting.
10+ centuries and as soon as cameras use become more widespread when it comes to the public they stop using the style? Right when the machinery and man power increased they don’t perfect the very same style they’ve been using for centuries? Nah lol. Instead they decide to stop. Very convenient
What’s really funny is how y’all will take one thing I say and try to make a whole new debate out of it. But NO, travel wasn’t widespread enough to need a 610 room “hotel”. But let’s say it was, it wouldn’t make any sense to build one 260+ ft high, 18 floor hotel, instead of dividing that up into several miniature hotels. It’s about practicality and that isn’t practicalTravel wasnt widespread at the time.
The construction of the Erie Canal was a landmark civil engineering achievement in the early history of the United States. When built, the 363-mile (584 km) canal was the second-longest in the world (after the Grand Canal in China). Initially 40 feet (12 m) wide and 4 feet (1.2 m) deep, the canal was expanded several times, most notably from 1905 to 1918 when the "Barge Canal" was built and over half the original route was abandoned. The modern Barge Canal measures 351 miles (565 km) long, 120 feet (37 m) wide, and 12 feet (3.7 m) deep. It has 34 locks, including the Waterford Flight, the steepest locks in the United States. When leaving the canal, boats must also traverse the Black Rock Lock to reach Lake Erie or the Troy Federal Lock to reach the tidal Hudson. The overall elevation difference is about 565 feet (172 m).
Erie's peak year was 1855, when 33,000 commercial shipments took place. It continued to be competitive with railroads until about 1902, when tolls were abolished.
Erie Canal - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This dude really thinking the United States and Canada were barren wastelands before 1965. My guy, where are you from? What kind of schooling were you subjected to?
port of Quebec 1900
Bro, you are hilarious.
Where does it describe specific buildings you are referencing? Why didnt they come out and say the Boston post office was already in America? The White House was already in America? That San Francisco already had hundreds of Roman style buildings? Why do they make vague references to architecture in Mexico but dont describe in detail any of the buildings you are talking about now?
You know why? Becuase they werent that crazy. Think on it.
The new Indiana Jones movie costs 300 million to make and distribute. So you are saying that the government spent less on a theme park than one movie studio is spending to make a movie today.
“Why isn’t something that’s being covered up, spelled out all the way?
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Now the convo is about dump trucksDump Trucks were invented in the late 1800s so you lied about that too and didn't bother to look it up.
36 page essay on the entire clean up process:
1908 dump truck
Steam tractor during earthquake recovery in 1906 San Fransisco
Workers manning cranes remove debris so rebuilding can begin
Sorry guy, they’re not going to clean 28000 buildings of debris and have the city completely rebuilt in 3 years
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
Bro I just showed you Cathedrals constructed recently in Japan the gothic styleWhat?
10+ centuries and as soon as cameras use become more widespread when it comes to the public they stop using the style? Right when the machinery and man power increased they don’t perfect the very same style they’ve been using for centuries? Nah lol. Instead they decide to stop. Very convenient
You even acknowledged it by saying it doesn’t count because it wasn’t made by hand. Why are you going back to point number one. We are past that. 
Did you forget the whole conversation? Is that how you were sitting in class too, just forgetting everything the teacher was telling you?Here is a cathedral in Nagasaki, it was blown up by the atomic bombs and was rebuilt in the 1950’s
Immaculate Conception Cathedral, Nagasaki - Wikipedia
Here’s Saint Peters cathedral in Nagoya, built in 1962
St. Peter and St. Paul Cathedral, Nagoya - Wikipedia
Here’s Aoyama cathedral built in 2006
Do you have anything else to say on this or you going to accept you were being goofy?
To further educate you Japan banned Christianity for 300 years. If these Cathedrals had truly been there for thousands of years why wasn’t anyone in Japan using them? They were just sitting there next to Shinto pagodas and Buddhist temples in pristine condition.
Btw here is the Cathedral in Cologne Germany after WW2
Here it is today
Did the Tartarian come back and rebuild the shyt?
You mean when you say something incredibly dumb and we call you on it. Yeah.
I just showed you the port of Quebec teeming with people, ships, cargo, and trains. I showed you a Wikipedia article stating that in the early 1800’s that area was seeing 33,000 shipping vessels a year.
Never mind trade, let’s talk about the city itself
Here is the demographics
Demographic history of Quebec - Wikipedia
Population Quebec
1861 1.1 million
1880 1.3 million
1900 1.6 million
So you’re saying a province of over a million people, with one of the busiest ports in North America, with 60,000 people in the city proper, in the cultural center of French Canada wouldn’t have a use for a large hotel that regularly was used to host foreign dignitaries?
Oh ok, why don’t you describe the practical use the Tartarians got out of a large building?
“Why isn’t something that’s being covered up, spelled out all the way?
So are all the worlds governments in on the cover up? Describe this cover up in detail to us?
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
36 page essay on the rebuilding process. Photos of rebuilding process in action. Multiple videos showing homes being erected in a day.Now the convo is about dump trucks
Sorry guy, they’re not going to clean 28000 buildings of debris and have the city completely rebuilt in 3 years
Goofy “nuh uh”
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Im taking he didn't visit all of these places but heard about them because:Towers, forts, large cities, ruins of a building with 100 foot walls all found in America. And it says from the eastern shore to the pacific and from the Great Lakes to South America. A lot of the universities are from before cacs as well:The antiquities of America extend from the Eastern shores of Maine and Massachusetts to the Pacific, and from the great lakes and British dominions to Perf and La Platta in South America; in fact, throughout the extent of the continents. Immense forests grow over the ruins of large cities, and the gigantic size of the trees, which indications that other generations of trees sprung up and grew before them, proves the the ruins were in existence before the Christian era. In every portion of the United States interesting ruins have been found, sculptured figures of one hundred animals of different species, executed in a style far surpassing the Indians. The State of Ohio abounds in ruins at towns and fortifications, with extensive towers and pyramids, At Marietta, and in Missouri, beautiful pottery, silver and copper ornaments, and pearls of great beauty and lustre, have been dug from the earth. In the caves of Tennessee and Kentucky, mummies have been found, in a high state of preservation, clothed with cloths and skins of various texture, inlaid with features. Like discoveries have been made at Carolton, near Milwakie, in the State of Wisconsin — ruins of huge fortifications appear. Similar ruins appear in the State of Missouri. On the south side of the Missouri river, in the western portion of the State, is an enclosure of some five hundred acres, which includes the ruins of a building (no doubt an ancient tower) with walls one hundred feet high, and eighty at the base attached to which are a redoubt and citadel, with work much resembling the structure of a tower in Europe.
The article is saying the best of all this was in Central America/Mexico area not that all of it was in Central America.
This was near the western side of the Missouri river
A Look Back • Big Mound in St. Louis, legacy of a lost culture, leveled in 1869
Big Mound, at today’s North Broadway and Mound Street, was 319 feet long, 158 feet wide and 34 feet high.
This was in Marietta
It's not unheard of people writing about places they never been back in those days
You refuse to read the step by step article with pics of the process because you know you wrong. You mad you cant figure out how to do it, but some cacs in 1906 didNow the convo is about dump trucks
Sorry guy, they’re not going to clean 28000 buildings of debris and have the city completely rebuilt in 3 years
Getting back to the theme park you and your Tartaria friends think are "ancient ruins"
the ancients made uncle Sam monuments too?
racist concessions stand images why did the ancients do that?
looks like coney island theme park to me
bonus the cac designing the statues for the fair you believe are impossible works of art
Of course he wouldn't read it. Once these people get a conspiracy stuck in their head they won't acknowledge anything that challenges it.36 page essay on the rebuilding process. Photos of rebuilding process in action. Multiple videos showing homes being erected in a day.
Goofy “nuh uh”
Nobody took pictures of these so called ancient ruins before the erection date or ever mentioned them even tho they were right in the city they lived in.
He will not explain that
Bro I just showed you Cathedrals constructed recently in Japan the gothic style
You can never get past 10 consistent centuries of building in a similar style until there’s video cameras around and everyone suddenly switches it up
My whole point about bringing anything of this up is that the story we’re given about history isn’t logical. Its not logical or practical to build a 5 story post office or YMCA. Yet you defend it not because it’s logical or practical but because that’s the official story…
Two miniature cathedrals and one of them (the second) isn’t even real and has limited info on with no pics of it being constructed. What can you show me thats been built recently that actually shows the construction process?Here’s Saint Peters cathedral in Nagoya, built in 1962
St. Peter and St. Paul Cathedral, Nagoya - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Here’s Aoyama cathedral built in 2006
Do you have anything else to say on this or you going to accept you were being goofy?
Oh and showing me someone rebuild something is like showing me someone patch a hole in a wall and comparing them to the one that put the wall up altogether.
Bruh it’s not practical to build a hotel that big. The practical thing to do would be to build several smaller hotels. You know in a time where there was limited machinery that could make such a great task easier? Based on what we’re told of the time period, it’s not logical nor practical to build a 5 story YMCA or post office in the 1800s..I just showed you the port of Quebec teeming with people, ships, cargo, and trains. I showed you a Wikipedia article stating that in the early 1800’s that area was seeing 33,000 shipping vessels a year.
Never mind trade, let’s talk about the city itself
Here is the demographics
Demographic history of Quebec - Wikipedia
Population Quebec
1861 1.1 million
1880 1.3 million
1900 1.6 million
So you’re saying a province of over a million people, with one of the busiest ports in North America, with 60,000 people in the city proper, in the cultural center of French Canada wouldn’t have a use for a large hotel that regularly was used to host foreign dignitaries?
And you believe cacs came to America on horse and wagon did all these things while I don’t. And for some reason it bothers you that I dont
Are all govts in on covering up the past? Yes. Here’s why:Oh ok, why don’t you describe the practical use the Tartarians got out of a large building?
So are all the worlds governments in on the cover up? Describe this cover up in detail to us?
This is a GERMAN (you know the caccest of the cacs?) tapestry. See how we’re discussing castles and who built what and this tapestry has a group of black/brown people defending themselves in a CASTLE rom attacking white wildmen?
All the govts are in on covering what actually happened in the past. Maybe even you
As if any of you sat and read that essay, even knew about this essay before yesterday or looked into ANY of this before this thread36 page essay on the rebuilding process. Photos of rebuilding process in action. Multiple videos showing homes being erected in a day.
Goofy “nuh uh”
Im taking he didn't visit all of these places but heard about them because:
This was near the western side of the Missouri river
A Look Back • Big Mound in St. Louis, legacy of a lost culture, leveled in 1869
Big Mound, at today’s North Broadway and Mound Street, was 319 feet long, 158 feet wide and 34 feet high.www.stltoday.com
This was in Marietta
It's not unheard of people writing about places they never been back in those days
Yea it’s a very large step from what he described being here before cacs to what we are told was here
They make it seem like the Continent was empty full of people living in tents
You refuse to read the step by step article with pics of the process because you know you wrong. You mad you cant figure out how to do it, but some cacs in 1906 did
Getting back to the theme park you and your Tartaria friends think are "ancient ruins"
the ancients made uncle Sam monuments too?
racist concessions stand images why did the ancients do that?
looks like coney island theme park to me
bonus the cac designing the statues for the fair you believe are impossible works of art
Compare booths to all this brehs
And that black man with gold rings is used throughout Europe.
Nothing racist about it though cacs took it to use it negatively
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