MLB commish confirms Oakland A’s will be moving to Las Vegas (Update: $1.5B park on Vegas strip on the way)

[Stick Up Kid]

Politics aside, Oakland hasn’t supported the A’s in 25+ years..

Sure you can blame the awful stadium, but even when they were good in the early 2000’s , shyt was always empty

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Sheesh.

Mad Dog deserves a bag for this alone.

Nothing but facts being spit and for these so called A’s fans the truth. If the city of Oakland truly did everything in its power then all 3 teams would still be there. The reality is that the city and the people who run the city have allowed problems within the city to fester for decades.

Well guess what? Another city will open its arms and we saw it with the Raiders. Warriors were probably going to SF no matter what and they did anyway.

I somehow doubt a broadcaster from NY is spitting facets about what was happening in real time in Oakland

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It’s hilarious to me that people expect an ownership group to spend money on talent and still play in the worst stadium in MLB by far (probably generates negative revenue at this point) and routinely ranks in the bottom half of attendance every year consistently even in good years.

The formula the A’s use to be competitive has worked better than most small and major market teams (I bet the Mets, Marlins, Rockies, Diamondbacks and White Sox would love to trade records with the A’s of the past 15 years).

The fans don’t show up and the stadium is awful. Oakland seems to not want professional sports. Vegas wants to partner up and kick in money. It’s a perfect storm for a relocation.

It’s clown shyt you think cities should be the one to resolve that billionaire owners should secure their own financing. The warriors did, they paid to build a stadium in SF at one of the most expensive times to build there in history, yet we’re supposed to cry because a broke owner can’t get his own stadium built?

And stop overrating that formula, even in the 00’s it still traded away anyone who became a star and resulted in zero championships while the giants right across the water locked up 3 in 6 years.

Yes, any city willing to spend their tax revenue on a private franchise can have them, believe me, there are enough people sitting in Oakland looking at our streets, the crime, the schools, etc that we’re unbothered by a team who chose to leave because we won’t give them our tax dollars or ask for special funds from the state for them

 

[pete clemenza]

Who cares!? This is a region, Oakland is not some city off to itself in the middle of the state like Fresno or Sacramento. We can hop on BART and be at a warriors or giants game. I’m a niner fan, so they’re still here. Sharks playing hockey right in San Jose. Life goes on, these teams, while in Oakland, pulled fans from all over the bay, this doesn’t change the day to day lives of most citizens

Come on now Dora, talk to me. Yeah you're technically right but man, losing all three teams in under 4 years sucks. I got friends & family in the O and Berkeley and been to a few A's games when I was young. I understood the Warriors move as they wanted a Staples Center type environment with bars, restaurants, and condos surrounding the arena. And Jerry Jones secretly told Mark Davis the Raiders were getting Vegas right after the Rams were granted permission to move back to LA so they were gone.. but by all means-worst case scenario the city had to somehow keep the A's in town

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

Fast society golf baseball these leagues ain’t wasting no time they on top of the tank annexing like Putin.

 

[calh45]

Politics aside, Oakland hasn’t supported the A’s in 25+ years..

Sure you can blame the awful stadium, but even when they were good in the early 2000’s , shyt was always empty

This isn't even close to being true. Do you live in Oakland in the early 2000s? I did. Giambi. Miggy. Chavez. Zito and Mulder were on the team. You are talking out of your ass. A's games were LIT. The team went to shyt a year or two after Lew and Fisher bought the team in 2005.

And now they have no professional sports teams and probably won’t attract any for the foreseeable future

I'm curious why you think it's a smart idea for a professional league to encourage moving away from the wealthiest area in the country with the highest amount of potential corporate sponsorship because the owner is too cheap or poor to pay for his own stadium?

The NBA, Joe Lacob, and the Warriors are doing backflips in the house right now about this. The entire bay area is about to be Warrior blue now. All of the actual Giant's fans got priced out of SF. The NFL allowed the 49ers to move to Santa Clara and build a stadium with no parking that's hard to get to. They followed that up by allowing Mark Davis to run a PR campaign against Oakland when in reality he was too poor to actually own a modern NFL team and vacated. The MLB allowed that same move with John Fisher. Oakland is going to shrug and keep it Oakland.

The Warriors are going to print money just off regional TV contracts alone.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

Modern tech domed stadiums these days. Miami has two, NFL and MLB teams.

A few yrs ago I took my fam to see the Mets vs Marlins and it was very comfortable!

Miami has 1, Dolphins stadium is partially covered.

 

[SmoothOperator88]

There wont be an expansion draft to give them a leg up and the ownership is still cheap ass fukk. I guess we'll see if they get lucky or if they will remain Orioles status.

This part right here. John Fisher basically was dodging question about whether he would spend money once the team was in Vegas and saying he prefered the Tampa Bay model. Basically meaning dude's gonna keep acting like a slumlord after the team is in Vegas. They'll easily be the 4th team in the area once the NBA arrives in due time.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

This isn't even close to being true. Do you live in Oakland in the early 2000s? I did. Giambi. Miggy. Chavez. Zito and Mulder were on the team. You are talking out of your ass. A's games were LIT. The team went to shyt a year or two after Lew and Fisher bought the team in 2005.



I'm curious why you think it's a smart idea for a professional league to encourage moving away from the wealthiest area in the country with the highest amount of potential corporate sponsorship because the owner is too cheap or poor to pay for his own stadium?

The NBA, Joe Lacob, and the Warriors are doing backflips in the house right now about this. The entire bay area is about to be Warrior blue now. All of the actual Giant's fans got priced out of SF. The NFL allowed the 49ers to move to Santa Clara and build a stadium with no parking that's hard to get to. They followed that up by allowing Mark Davis to run a PR campaign against Oakland when in reality he was too poor to actually own a modern NFL team and vacated. The MLB allowed that same move with John Fisher. Oakland is going to shrug and keep it Oakland.

The Warriors are going to print money just off regional TV contracts alone.

From 2000-2004 they went to the Playoffs.
They averaged 21,000 fans. which is dead last from all playoff teams, who averaged 39,000.

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors | Baseball-Reference.com

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors

www.baseball-reference.com

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Come on now Dora, talk to me. Yeah you're technically right but man, losing all three teams in under 4 years sucks. I got friends & family in the O and Berkeley and been to a few A's games when I was young. I understood the Warriors move as they wanted a Staples Center type environment with bars, restaurants, and condos surrounding the arena. And Jerry Jones secretly told Mark Davis the Raiders were getting Vegas right after the Rams were granted permission to move back to LA so they were gone.. but by all means-worst case scenario the city had to somehow keep the A's in town

I'm not a raiders fan, so i don;'t know how they feel, from a dollar and sense (intentional) standpoint, it made so sense to be trying to give the Raiders more public money when they hadn't paid back what they owed from the 90's. There were billionaires out here trying to help Davis pay for a new stadium and he aint want to give up any ownership stake. I don't have any sorrow over losing a team owner by a broke owner who also wouldn't compromise at all to get a deal done in the bay - Vegas gave hive $700M+ in tax revenue, they can have that.

The A's have been a shyt team with an owner who hasn't invested in the community nor been involved in any type of civic pride, baseball aint saving oakland and i personally don't care if they stayed in oakland proper, somewhere else in the bay etc. Yall gotta stop acting like these teams were solely supported by Oakland only, like we're some isolated city, people drive all over the area for shyt, having the Dubs in SF aint the end of the world, if the As moved to Fremont, that wouldn't have been the end of the world. Oakland has gone to shyt with 3 sports teams, they are not some salvation we have so many bigger issues, this is silly "privileged" problems.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

From 2000-2004 they went to the Playoffs.
They averaged 21,000 fans. which is dead last from all playoff teams, who averaged 39,000.

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors | Baseball-Reference.com

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors

www.baseball-reference.com

Giants opened their stadium in 2000 - both teams PULL ATTENDEES FROM ALL OVER THE BAY, yall can't seem to get that thru your head. If there's a brand new stadium 13 miles west, that's going to be where casuals go (you can see the attendance jump from 98/99 to 00-02), the actual A's fans showed up

 

[phillycavsfan]

What's with this obsession with Vegas? Who wants to watch baseball in 110 degree weather? Vegas is already a car-infested shytshow, I can't imagine how bad that's going to be with acres of asphalt near the strip.

Retractable roof.

Do they actually have a plot to build on in Vegas? I'm not sure you can fit a baseball stadium with a retractable roof on the Strip. Fisher could still be trying to coax Oakland into giving him public funding for a stadium.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

i feel like many thought the same about the Vegas Golden Knights, and they were poppin from day 1 six years ago.

small ballpark = better potential for sell-through = more high-profile look on TV and public eye

they'll probably look to make a splash upon arrival in Vegas, too (trades, free agents) and player interest will increase because of location

franchise is going to get a ton of attention with this move because the press will continue to follow the progress, too

There wont be an expansion draft to give them a leg up and the ownership is still cheap ass fukk. I guess we'll see if they get lucky or if they will remain Orioles status.

This part right here. John Fisher basically was dodging question about whether he would spend money once the team was in Vegas and saying he prefered the Tampa Bay model. Basically meaning dude's gonna keep acting like a slumlord after the team is in Vegas. They'll easily be the 4th team in the area once the NBA arrives in due time.

I was living in Florida while Jeff Loria was crying poverty to get a publicly funded stadium for the marlins. I have a friend who’s a fan so I kinda follow them. Anyone with any sense knew his promise to spend if Miami gave him that park was a lie. Within 2 month of opening day 2012 (the first year in the current park) they were hosting another fire sale. Legit before the nba finals even began he was giving away anyone who was making money. 100% chance fisher will do something similar should he get his way and Major League Baseball will have killed 2 markets with their conduct. This makes the theft of the sonics seem honorable and upfront by comparison.

 

[calh45]

From 2000-2004 they went to the Playoffs.
They averaged 21,000 fans. which is dead last from all playoff teams, who averaged 39,000.

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors | Baseball-Reference.com

Oakland Athletics Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors

www.baseball-reference.com

You're not going to tell me the stadium was half empty or that the A's weren't supported by Oakland from a link on baseball reference when I was in the building when it was mostly full. They played in a football stadium and it was LIT. The early 2000s in the bay area was Bonds, A's, Raiders/Gruden, then 49ers in that order. Zito and Mulder were on TV everywhere. There's other folks in this thread that'll tell you the same thing I am. You still talking out of your ass.

 

[FakeNews]

It’s clown shyt you think cities should be the one to resolve that billionaire owners should secure their own financing. The warriors did, they paid to build a stadium in SF at one of the most expensive times to build there in history, yet we’re supposed to cry because a broke owner can’t get his own stadium built?

And stop overrating that formula, even in the 00’s it still traded away anyone who became a star and resulted in zero championships while the giants right across the water locked up 3 in 6 years.

Yes, any city willing to spend their tax revenue on a private franchise can have them, believe me, there are enough people sitting in Oakland looking at our streets, the crime, the schools, etc that we’re unbothered by a team who chose to leave because we won’t give them our tax dollars or ask for special funds from the state for them

That same formula has resulted in them making the playoffs 11 times in 23 years and only win ONE playoff series and have ZERO World Series appearances. Ironically the teams breh mentioned have actually made and in some case won the World Series in those 23 years So that A's formula can get you to the playoffs but you sure as hell aint wining no WS.

I somehow doubt a broadcaster from NY is spitting facets about what was happening in real time in Oakland

And this...... crazy people who dont live in the Bay Area and have no clue but got the strongest opinions. Funny how mad Dogg didn't mention the Haas, Rickey Henderson, Bash Brother era when the A's had the number one payroll and top attendance. That was probably the only time the A's have ever had a decent ownership in Oakland that was active in the community and invested in the team. The Giants and A's were neck and neck at one point once "Pac bell Park" opened in 2000 it was over. Why go to Oakland unless your a die hard when you can go to a brand spanking new stadium in San Francisco

This part right here. John Fisher basically was dodging question about whether he would spend money once the team was in Vegas and saying he prefered the Tampa Bay model. Basically meaning dude's gonna keep acting like a slumlord after the team is in Vegas. They'll easily be the 4th team in the area once the NBA arrives in due time.

Its insane to me that Vegas is willing to sell their sold for this owner and its not even just the A's. I know most in this thread aint checking for the MLS but look at what he's done with the San Jose Earthquakes. Brand new stadium, but one of the worst teams in the MLS the last several years(finally playing better this year), and hardly spend money to improve the team....... the Bay Area is basically a wasted and untapped market.

Vegas is really thirsty for the MLB but I wouldn't trust the ownership group plus their coming to town as one of the worst teams in the league with a bottom tier farm system and they about to start receiving those welfare checks again? Good luck Vegas.