"Middle Class" Blacks in the United States

[No1]

The author is really trying to show that institutionalized racism doesn't exist because he was around PC-centric white folks who never called him names to his face? Mass inequalities and marginalization across health, workplace, education practices vs. his privileged little individual life? I'm tired of people thinking that hate crimes are the only performance of racism, institutional racism is far more deadly.

Worth closing the thread on this note to be one hundred.

 

[zerozero]

The author is really trying to show that institutionalized racism doesn't exist because he was around PC-centric white folks who never called him names to his face? Mass inequalities and marginalization across health, workplace, education practices vs. his privileged little individual life? I'm tired of people thinking that hate crimes are the only performance of racism, institutional racism is far more deadly.

 

[Nascimento]

There are issues of racism, segregation and other kinds of social injustice in society, and there are personal experiences. You can't conflate these but people do it constantly. Anecdotes are by definition incomplete, yet people find it meaningful to second-guess dude's story in the article? You want to talk about problems in society at large? Fine. You want to talk about what to do in order to succeed professionally, personally? Great. Keep that shyt separate.

Christ came once and look at what we got. I dont see how him coming back would fix anything.

I'm also confused as to why we are so fixated on external factors beyond our control. How do you stop racism? Nobody has an answer. But I could mention problems we do have control over that I know people would throw a fit about. If black people dedicated the energy to internal problems as they do to racism we wouldn't even be tripping off racism because we wouldn't be dependent on those people for anything

But thats prob a whole nother discussion

I love me of some that external factors! Let me have some more I need my fix man. Feels so nice, mhm, I can instantly through no effort feel superior and forget my shortcomings

 

[Darts]

This author clearly has never been to South. @ thinking that being black in the "middle class" is gonna save u from a porky pig looking cop pulling u over because u look "suspicious" to him.

 

[OsO]

Ive asked this before but can someone tell me what the solution is to racism in America? How do we rectify the situation?

we created the social construct of race, so we have the power to alter or eliminate it.

 

[theworldismine13]

There are issues of racism, segregation and other kinds of social injustice in society, and there are personal experiences. You can't conflate these but people do it constantly. Anecdotes are by definition incomplete, yet people find it meaningful to second-guess dude's story in the article? You want to talk about problems in society at large? Fine. You want to talk about what to do in order to succeed professionally, personally? Great. Keep that shyt separate.


I love me of some that external factors! Let me have some more I need my fix man. Feels so nice, mhm, I can instantly through no effort feel superior and forget my shortcomings

Basically, it's important to discuss racism, but ending racism isn't the key to black prosperity, internal development is

 

[Blackking]

we created the social construct of race, so we have the power to alter or eliminate it.

we as in whom?

 

[Yogi]

I was going to say this. IDK how we define black middle class. you're either a have or have not= imo.

In the 'hood', some blacks would consider my existence middle class.. I don't agree, the fact that one series of crazy events could put me below the poverty lines, means that I'm not in the top class and that middle class is an allusion of being comfortable, barely better off than people poorer than you, and having more to lose and more to stress over.

Besides, this n1gga is just out of touch w reality. Let's not confuse this confused n1ggas confused message with being an insightful and unique prospective.

I try to explain this to my wife all the time. We are doing fairly well right now, but like you said, one unexpected event could change that real fast. She sees her white co-workers living in big houses and driving nice cars, and she wants that too. The difference is, they have a built in network of well off friend and family that can always hook them up with money or jobs if things get rough. We don't have that safety net, so we need to be conservative and realize that we could be "poor" fairly quickly.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

we created the social construct of race, so we have the power to alter or eliminate it.

How do you propose we do that?

Basically, it's important to discuss racism, but ending racism isn't the key to black prosperity, internal development is

Exactly

I try to explain this to my wife all the time. We are doing fairly well right now, but like you said, one unexpected event could change that real fast. She sees her white co-workers living in big houses and driving nice cars, and she wants that too. The difference is, they have a built in network of well off friend and family that can always hook them up with money or jobs if things get rough. We don't have that safety net, so we need to be conservative and realize that we could be "poor" fairly quickly.

Your white coworkers might be living on credit. People only let you see what they want to see. One of my inlaws- great guy, white guy- him + his wife are like the "perfect family". My wife calls his wife (her aunt) the Martha Stewart of the family. Anyways dude was just forced to sell his house and took a major loss. Word has it he's been depressed + crying about the shyt. But if you came to their crib you would think they were well off. Appearance doesn't mean shyt, thats one of the traps that keeps black people down. If we put the $$$ we did into looking rich into actually being rich we would be as well off as the Chinese

 

[NYC Rebel]

There are issues of racism, segregation and other kinds of social injustice in society, and there are personal experiences. You can't conflate these but people do it constantly. Anecdotes are by definition incomplete, yet people find it meaningful to second-guess dude's story in the article? You want to talk about problems in society at large? Fine. You want to talk about what to do in order to succeed professionally, personally? Great. Keep that shyt separate.


I love me of some that external factors! Let me have some more I need my fix man. Feels so nice, mhm, I can instantly through no effort feel superior and forget my shortcomings

This is straight nonsense. The point is, he used his own personal experience to cover the terrain of experiences tied to the Black Middle Class.

He was better off saying that is his own personal story than using that as a reflection of the black middle class experience. when looking at the group's overall experiences dealing with the glaring inequities Houston touched in his post, the authors personal experience doesn't seem to match up to the group he claims to speak for.

 

[I Lord Justice]

Are you black? nobody is going to tell you any of that stuff to your face.

Sure, Asians voted for Obama, but i'm sure that 75% of all Asians wouldn't be cool with Black son-in-law.


I've heard so many racist things about blacks in my life from Mexicans and whites. Extremely racist comments and remarks. Looking back on it, i'm like how can anyone say there is no racism in America?

I've got 1000s of stories of the things i've experienced.
I'm not making any of this shyt up at all.

I've even initiated conversations like that before. When I worked in retail, some black dude got all upset because I wouldn't cash his bullshyt-ass fake check. He called me a "racist asian" that hates blacks.

I told my white and mexican co-workers AND BOSS, "See how THEY ARE, always using racism as a bullshyt excuse". You know what? None of them said anything to disagree. my boss at the time said, "that's just how those n1ggers are...better just learn to deal with it."

Now, in the corporate world, I have never heard anything like that. Small comments here and there but never anything that extreme. I have never hung out with black people at work, so I don't know what goes on from their POV

Am i the only one who rolls his eyes whenever this dude brings up clearly manufactured "personal Experiences" like these?

 

[Serious]

This is straight nonsense. The point is, he used his own personal experience to cover the terrain of experiences tied to the Black Middle Class.

He was better off saying that is his own personal story than using that as a reflection of the black middle class experience. when looking at the group's overall experiences dealing with the glaring inequities Houston touched in his post, the authors personal experience doesn't seem to match up to the group he claims to speak for.

This was initially why I started this discussion. I've grown up under similar circumstances as the author. And a lot of my other friends (black middle class) did too, sohh I wanted to see if any other "middle class blacks" on the coli, can relate to this author perspective, in any shade.

I don't necessarily agree with the premise of his literature, but there are certainly a few claims I can relate too.

 

[Mook]

Am i the only one who rolls his eyes whenever this dude brings up clearly manufactured "personal Experiences" like these?

rofl @ black people trying to tell non blacks how other non blacks feel about them. Stfu fakkit, gundumb is completely right in that post.

 

[Serious]

rofl @ black people trying to tell non blacks how other non blacks feel about them. Stfu fakkit, gundumb is completely right in that post.

It's a generalization, because he negates the fact that there are black individuals who spew racist sh*t about other cultures as well.

There are Asians who talk crap about white people.

There are hispanics who talk crap about white people and Asians.

The hate goes in all directions.

Yet these same people would probably be caught, jocking urban swag. Listening to rap and wearing "urban inspired gear".

This issue is "more than likely" null & void if an individual grows up in a rather heterogeneous environment as opposed to a homogenous neighborhood, where all they know are handed down anecdotes and stereotypes.

 

[Mook]

It's a generalization, because he negates the fact that there are black individuals who spew racist sh*t about other cultures as well.

There are Asians who talk crap about white people.

There are hispanics who talk crap about white people and Asians.

The hate goes in all directions.

Yet these same people would probably be caught, jocking urban swag. Listening to rap and wearing "urban inspired gear".

This issue is "more than likely" null & void if an individual grows up in a rather heterogeneous environment as opposed to a homogenous neighborhood, where all they know are handed down anecdotes and stereotypes.

@Slystallion has it right too.

And yes many Spanish cultures in the hood are more iignorant and fearful of black people then white people. Spanish moms always warning their children to watch out for the "morenos" or they tell their daughters not to marry a "cocolo"

I gotta keep it real based on what I've seen