Mid carders are trying to form a union

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Working for a man like McMahon must be a bytch. He's their judge, jury, and executioner. And even when they get fired or leave, they don't say shyt about him. When you think about it, they deserve their fate for being so weak and feminine in nature. Everytime I see a picture of MVP, I just bust out laughing. Someone like Mickie was WRONGED because she was more over than anyone in their midcard that they did the stop and go pushes with. WTF is Kelly Kelly still doing with a job in 2012 when she's one of the most worthless blondes I've ever seen in any type of work or life situation.

MVP is eating good in Japan tho. And it isn't like he is there because he had no choice. He chose to go there cuz he actually fukks with their style. And he is still in touch with Punk, Kofi, etc.
 

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I do like that people are hoping Punk will back these guys. Punk has always been in for himself. He's an IRL heel. Selfish, obnoxious, egotistical, etc etc.

It's why he's great.

i gotta agree all reports of him as a person reveals a very selfish individual that really could care less about the business as a whole thou i understand having that attitude coming up in the indys like he did
 

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MVP is eating good in Japan tho. And it isn't like he is there because he had no choice. He chose to go there cuz he actually fukks with their style. And he is still in touch with Punk, Kofi, etc.

him, carlito, and shelton were on MVP's vlog and had nothing but respect for vince, they just hate the way the company was going direction wise. same thing about batista. Most if not all these midcards want is either a push up or at least television time. Raw is 3 hours, Smackdown is 2, ppvs are 3 hours, superstars is another hour...that can be 9 hours a week where majority of it is just DB, Cena, Punk, Big Show, Sheamus, ADR, Kane, AJ, Miz, etc.

You got Reks, Hawkins, Baretta, Gabriel, Slater, JTG, Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd, Alex Riley, Camacho, Brodus Clay, Darren Young, David Otunga, Primo/epico, Hunico, The USOS, Jinder, Mason Ryan, Henning Jr, Sin Cara, Ryback, Titus oneil, and Yoshi Tatsu who never have won a singles title, a lot of whom never won a title period, or even had a title shot at any belts

then you got guys who've been there for a while and are or were actually over but got depushed for various reasons like Bourne, Kofi, Swagger, Zack Ryder, Truth, Ted Dibiase, Cody Rhodes, TINO BROWN, Drew McIntyre, Miz and Dolph [who now has a chance at a legit wwe title]...who are far removed at getting a wwe title shot...

now out of all these names, the only ones who look to be inline for a shot let alone a push towards the upper-card/main event are:
Dolph
Way Barry
Miz [they love him no matter what]
MAYBE Cody

meanwhile, out of those four...you have 20+ guys who not only have weak characters, no main show tv time, no direction, or no character/time at ALL

You'd think they'd make the midcard belts more for these guys instead of putting them on former world/wwe champs with nothing to do. Maybe put some of these guys together as tag teams...theres plenty of guys to spare.

Hawkins/Reks, Usos, PTP, Truth/Kingston, Bourne/Gabriel, Camacho/hunico, etc.

The Us/IC titles should be for guys who have yet to win a major title...Even if they dont win the belt, have some guys put over whoever has it. Barretta/tyson kidd would fit this mold well and helps establish a midcarder who beats some other guys on tv/ppv and builds him and his character until he is ready for a world title/wwe title run or another feud...this is LITERALLY what they did in the 80's/90's and early 2000s...
 

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It seems that the stock market has looked upon her trying to be a politician as detrimental to her family's business, as the price of WWE stock has dropped by 2/3 in the last two years.

i'm sure Vince does whatever Linda says but they blown about 80 mill and looks like she still has NO CHANCE IN HELL in winning
 

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I can see where they're coming from to an extent. I do think it's BS how they're labeled as "independent contractors" when they can't work for anyone else and that they don't have nearly as many perks as the top guys. I would be pissed off as well if I made a certain amount but had to spend 50% to 70% of it on travel expenses and taxes. At the same time they chose this life and waited this long to finally say something about unfair treatment.
 

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It's absurd to think that the best way to handle situations like these is to talk man to man with Vince when as individuals none of them have any legal power. What is the best they can do? Absolutely nothing of significance. A lot of you arguing against the idea of unions yourself pointed out why talking to vince as individual contractors won't work. He will just throw anyone out who goes against WWE's business model. But he can't throw them all out at once. Wrestling industry needs a union.

Right now WWE wrestlers are technically independent contractors but they don't have the freedom to do business with anyone as they please. They can't wrestle for other promotions while working with WWE. As individuals they can't negotiate terms of their contract that favor them in any way. WWE currently gets to enjoy all the profits that comes via these wrestlers but doesn't adequately compensate them. You can't address a company policy issue by just BEING A MAN.
Oh nah you gotta go up to Vince look him square in the eye and say "Hey! I want some respect!"

Then after he does another line, laughs, and then fires you, you can go back to being a personal trainer in Boise Idaho while moonlighting as a bouncer at a nightclub in a strip club :laugh:

And of course this dummy Sly is against unions. Even when the obvious is staring him in the face, nope he just falls back on that good old right wing idiocy
 

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MVP is eating good in Japan tho. And it isn't like he is there because he had no choice. He chose to go there cuz he actually fukks with their style. And he is still in touch with Punk, Kofi, etc.

Nah..he kind of ran there because he couldn't cut it in the WWE and was being jobbed out pretty hard despite kind of getting over as face. He always said he wanted to work with the Rock..probably his top dream feud and right before he comes back, he hightailed it. It's good he's staying active in Japan because if you learn things the right way over there, you'll become an incredible worker but that's about it.
 

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Damn tho I guess they taught jtg a lesson tonight. At least he got some offense in on ryback. Part of it makes me think this may be a work but if not then this is real fukked up to use jtg as a sacrificial lamb.
 

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they did this before with yoshi and tensai, yoshi said he'd defend his japanese honor against tensai who was a phony

he jobbed in under three minutes CLEAN
 

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You really have to REALLY love the idea of the business to hear shyt like this and still persue being a part of it.



The only thing the midcard needs to do is form a single file line and walk the fukk out on live tv. Otherwise continue to take it like battered wives. Vince has these boys over a ledge and they have no real leverage until something drastic goes down





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