Micheal Jordan pointing out the obvious about Lebron James :mjlol:

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Stop comparing goats from different eras. Jordan was the best at his time and LeBron is the best now, Jordan wouldn't be the best today and LeBron would be all-time great back then because of how the sport has progressed, it makes no sense to compare them. shyt the fact that it's even an argument proves MJ isn't the goat.
You was doing ok til here. There’s no way to know that and that argument is not good. Just say Jordan was the goat and Lebron is now if you want.
 

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Completely unprompted and fabricated thread. The insecurity is amazing really. People really clinging now that James is the all time scoring leader. Its only going to get worse as he continues to solidify himself in the top 10s of so many stat categories.

By the time this dude retires haters gonna be working full time jobs to discredit him.

I'll say this though, as someone who watched BBall through the 80s and 90s, the idea that a mf built like Lebron James would have had trouble in the 'physical' era is laughable as fukk. All the push offs and shyt they allowed back then? nikkas like Lebron have the strength and size to ragdoll 90% of the league, and he absolutely would have, and the refs would have allowed that shyt.
What's so fabricated about it dosen't one man in the picture teams hence teams have six finals losses am I missing something?
 

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This is ridiculous cause NO ONE IS SHOOTING THE BALL 28+ TIMES A GAME WHILE GETTING TO THE LINE 13+ TIMES A GAME.

I swear to God it's so weird hearing casuals spout this idiotic stuff. No one is allowing a player to shoot that much every game.

Not just that, but there are SOOOOOOOO many better wings and defenders in this league then there ever was in the 80-90's.

This current era is a league of giants
You guys don't understand sarcasm do you MY bad I forgot ya'll Gen Z.

That's why a rookie who was averaging 5 points a game just dropped three 40 point games in a row :russ:
 

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They need to hurry up and produce a Last Dance remake, every day more and more people in the media are saying Lebron is the GOAT. The young people already think that and people like me are starting to seriously consider it. Only a matter of time before the opinion shifts

foh with your bron stan drivel

if MJ aint goat because its a team sport, then neither should phil be considered the GOAT coach he wasnt even the one who made the triangle it was Tex winter who did
And a coach can only go so far if not nowhere without the players


LOL why must you lie, 2011, 2013, and 2020 prove you wrong, and even 2014 was by a barely slight margin for the spurs, and they were only given the edge because of homecourt advantage. The heat and the Spurs were seen as freakin equal by the betting odds.

no one predicted them to stomp the heat tho as they did. If the spurs won alot of people predicted it would be in a tight 6 at the least.


ok real quick isaiah retired in 94 not 91 stupid. and had already lost to MJ.

and if we talking injuries and talent, you bron stans gotta stop acting like Bron stayed all the time facing KD/Curry/Giannis level players and Warriors level talent. Part of the reason this man went to the Finals so much between 2011-2018 was cause most of the teams in the east he played against didn't have the talent his teams had, nor did they have the star/primary player(lowry/derozan Raptors, Isaiah thomas celtics) be at the talent anywhere near Bron like Curry, Kd, Giannis is. to compete




injury wise, this man played against the 60 win ATL Hawks starting lineup dropping like flies every game, injured Isaiah Thomas led celtics, no d rose Bulls in 2013,and has won his past 2 championship rings with a suspension, and injuries working to his favor. :dead:

so you can STFU about the 91 finals, espescially as your boy bron won his last ring in a eerily similar way of a 1st option player(Jimmy) losing his second and third option players(Bam and Dragic) as Magic did,
Don't let the media and young kids who only seen one option sway your vote after the last dance they were convinced it was Mike hence why Bron had to hurry up and get the bubble poppin.

LeBron James’ kids wore Michael Jordan shoes to watch him break NBA scoring record​

They really couldn’t find some LeBrons in their closet?

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Coach Pop is a top basketball mind… That’s why a lot of people who coached under him went on to have their own careers.
The Mavs series was the only one where he was a favorite and lost. Maybe one of the Spurs series

What? Don’t understand what you’re saying
How were they old but was only in year 10 when they got they asses whooped.
 

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Why wasn't he playing?


Just like his Stan's a try hard if you that nikka it would be known he that nikka no doubt he just second period.
 

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How were they old but was only in year 10 when they got they asses whooped.
Look at basketball reference or a game. James worthy was bussing ass until he got injured and couldn’t go for the rest of the series… lakers one game 1. They gotta start Terry at eagle and AC Green instead of James Worthy and Byron Scott. Then you got HIV ravaging magic’s body.
 

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Look at basketball reference or a game. James worthy was bussing ass until he got injured and couldn’t go for the rest of the series… lakers one game 1. They gotta start Terry at eagle and AC Green instead of James Worthy and Byron Scott. Then you got HIV ravaging magic’s body.
Injuries are apart of the game no excuses.

The Spurs should've beat the Heat but Pop wants to keep Duncan off the floor for reasons we still never got a explanation too Bosh gets the rebound Ray Allen hits the 3 we know the rest
 

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bad examples breh.

Tom Brady isn't the GOAT just because of his stats. He's the GOAT because he has stats and RINGS. More than any QB ever. (before him it was Joe Montana, and rightly so)
Wayne Gretzky is the GOAT because his individual stats are god-like AND he has a winning record with 2 franchises. (People make the argument for Bobby Orr, but even oldheads bow before Gretzky and called him "The Great One")


You CANNOT be the Greatest Of All Time with just stats. You gotta win when it matters. LeBron did not. Excuses aren't remembered. No one remembers the Seahawks not rushing to the endzone. They remember Tom Brady winning his FOURTH superbowl.

I mean, forget about us, as people on the internet and fans of the game. Look at players in the league and hall of famers. They respect LeBron as a player, but majority of them have not called him the GOAT or showed respect like they do for MJ. They actually played in the league, they know ball and ball history. If they aren't calling him the GOAT, why would he be?

"I always look at it, would I rather not make the playoffs or lose in The Finals? I don't know. I've missed the playoffs twice. I lost in The Finals four times. I'm almost starting to be like I'd rather not even make the playoffs than to lose in The Finals. It would hurt a lot easier if I just didn't make the playoffs and I didn't have a shot at it." - LeBron James


It isn't disingenuous. If you've played any level of real sport or competition, you'd rather just lose on the way to the finals in the playoffs and prepare for the next year. Getting to a finals and losing hurts massively. Doing it 6 times out of 10 is devastating. I agree with LeBron on that sentiment and he voices that sentiment because he knows how it looks on his resume and how it reflects on his hard work and legacy.

Finals losses are worse. No one cares that you came in 2nd or more. Messi just won his first and probably last world cup. He was going to retire if he didn't win it last year because he'd been there 4 times before. Losing 4 world cups is mental. You get a chance every 4 years, make it to the finals and lose. That's mentally taxing. Messi is not my GOAT, but I can respect people who say he is because of the degree of difficulty to win a world cup vs other sports. You don't get many chances for that trophy.
Fully understandable he'd feel that way. Same reason people say they'd rather be blown out than lose a heartbreaker. Because the closer you get to something the more it hurts when you don't get it. But that's emotion and hurt. But in no way does that make logical sense. And we all know it. Which is why it remains a stupid argument.
 

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:pachaha:i personally think mj is better than bron i got jordan 1 and bron 2 but the record bullshyt is nonsense

the first warriors one his whole team was hurt he lead both teams in all caterogies fukk u expect him to do score 100 points himself
he woulda won that one with a healthy kyrie

2 years of losses were from a kd steph klay warriors team the 3 best statistical shooters of all time damn near no one was beating them and when he had the trade in place to get pg and melo to compete with them selfish ass kyrie threatened year ending surgery and fukked the deal up

bron has faced way harder finals teams that jordan it is what it is
bron always had inexperienced coaches as well going up against hall of fame coaches :wow:

Jordan faced harder teams in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Lebron dominated when the east was weak. The scouting report on MJ simply said "Good Luck"
 

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You old heads are bats shyt insane if you think MJ would average 50 when the greatest shooter of all time in Steph couldn’t even average that shyt

Did you see how easy MJ got to the rim when big men were able to camp out in the paint and wait for him? Imagine how much easier it will be playing in the worst defensive era ever.... MJ might give you 50 on a bad night.
 

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Ain’t no one GOAT in a team game. Phil Jackson might be a Goat coach tho. I wonder how many GOAT coaches LeBron played for? In basketball people are always changing up the prerequisites/ qualifications.

One thing is for sure… LeBron played against better talent… And his teams were never the favorites to win. The Bulls were always the favorites. When they play the Lakers in the finals, they suffered two major injuries; Byron Scott and James Worthy. Magic subsequently retired due to HIV. Isaiah Thomas retire in 91 and Larry bird retired in 92.

How many rings did Phil have before he coached MJ?
 
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