Micheal Jordan pointing out the obvious about Lebron James :mjlol:

[DrexlersFade]

Not enough.

 

[Paradoxical Tiger]

You old heads are bats shyt insane if you think MJ would average 50 when the greatest shooter of all time in Steph couldn’t even average that shyt

 

[Paradoxical Tiger]

Like MJ would not win nearly as much as the accolades as he did in the 90’s, in todays era. It’s like y’all just completely throw away context

 

[Phitz]

Stop comparing goats from different eras. Jordan was the best at his time and LeBron is the best now, Jordan wouldn't be the best today and LeBron would be all-time great back then because of how the sport has progressed, it makes no sense to compare them. shyt the fact that it's even an argument proves MJ isn't the goat.

The game is less physical now, so I give the edge to Jordan

WAtch the old games, they got away with karate chops and rear naked chokes

 

[jadillac]

Stop comparing goats from different eras. Jordan was the best at his time and LeBron is the best now, Jordan wouldn't be the best today and LeBron would be all-time great back then because of how the sport has progressed, it makes no sense to compare them. shyt the fact that it's even an argument proves MJ isn't the goat.

They both would be all-time great in any era, MJ would just be greater. Lol

 

[DatBoiHawk]

Team hopping to win championships should be an automatic disqualification for GOAT status

 

[DatBoiHawk]

we gotta stop doing this You can't cherry-pick what works for Jordan and place him in this era, the aggressive defense of that time could be brutal for sure, but it was also unintelligent and less efficient. The game has progressed breh it's inevitable, the top 50-25 in the nba today would dominate any combination of 80's-90's teams.

It’s funny how people think that those same players back then wouldn’t be on the same level with the same level of training and nutrition so NO. Todays players back then would be playing the same style of ball as the 80s and 90s if they were in that era and vice versa

 

[DrexlersFade]

You old heads are bats shyt insane if you think MJ would average 50 when the greatest shooter of all time in Steph couldn’t even average that shyt

Obviously you guys don't get sarcasm my Jesus you Gen Z dudes are special.

@TripleAgent

 

[Paradoxical Tiger]

Obviously you guys don't get sarcasm my Jesus you Gen Z dudes are special.

@TripleAgent

Naw, y’all be talking like he’ll have the scoring title every year. Regardless he’s wouldn’t average more than KD, let alone Steph

 

[DrexlersFade]

Naw, y’all be talking like he’ll have the scoring title every year. Regardless he’s wouldn’t average more than KD, let alone Steph

What's your basis for this? Are you saying they are better players?

 

[etrofllenrod504]

if you are a student and fan of basketball, it's hard to call LeBron the goat.

There are 3 players I would consider better than LeBron: Bill, Kareem, and MJ. On and off the court.

Bill went to the finals 12 times and lost once. Lebron went 10 times and lost 6.
Jordan went to the finals 6 times and never lost. Lebron went 10 times and lost 6.
Kareem went 10 times and lost 4 times. Lebron went 10 times and lost 6.

I cannot put Lebron above guys from different eras who won when it matters with winning records. How can you call a guy who's lost more championships than he's won the Greatest Of All Time? You can't.

LeBron is a great statistical anomaly. But what matters the most at the end of your career is what you've won. He has not won enough to be better than his predecessors. Not only that, he didn't win on one team. Everyone I mentioned before stayed on one team and in some cases willed their teams to victory...multiple times. I'm betting kids that are 12 now will call Curry the GOAT in 10 years. He'll probably have won another chip, putting him right next to Kobe, Tim, and above Shaq. He'll have a better ranking, all time, than Lebron in 10 years.


forget Rodman, dude is scared to play Kawhi in THIS era of soft basketball. He was shook everytime dude checked in during the Spurs - Heat series.

You dudes really be talking out ya ass. Only dude out those 3 have a legit argument is MJ. I get giving respect to those that came before but no. In the sense bball Kareem and Bill are NOT better than bron. Not better passers, not better ball handlers, not better scorer, not better defenders(cause they couldn’t guard wings), and the list goes on. When you think that Bron is the all time scoring leader and also top 4 assist leader. That’s like Tom Brady being the all time passing leader, td leader, and also 4th all time rusher(not just qb). Like we got stop trynna move the goal post on him. When we all dead and gone he gonna be remembered by the numbers. You dudes keep mentions a TEAM accolade with chips. It takes more than one player to win chips in the nba. This ain’t tennis

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

“Lebron wouldn’t survive MJ’s era”

MJ’s era:

 

[Paradoxical Tiger]

What's your basis for this? Are you saying they are better players?

No, just better at scoring the ball

 

[Verbal Kint]

I cannot put Lebron above guys from different eras who won when it matters with winning records. How can you call a guy who's lost more championships than he's won the Greatest Of All Time? You can't.

I think Jordan is the greatest but I will always point out the intellectual dishonesty of this argument. Unless you're going to tell sprinters that it's better to finish 5th than 2nd, or NFL players its better to lose in the divisional round than the Super Bowl, the idea that its worse to make it further is stupid and ONLY applied to LeBron. By definition each year you either win the chip or you don't, so even Jordan 'lost more championships than he won'. If the point is winning then getting to the Finals is better than not getting to the Finals. It's soooooo stupid to hold up Finals losses like those are worse for LeBron than Jordan's playoff losses are to him.

 

[FlexPavilion]

The bottom line is this:

Lebron has blemishes on his resume that Jordan doesn’t.

Lebron, in his prime, led his Cleveland Cavaliers to the number one seed in the eastern conference in 2009 and 2010. Both years he choked and got bounced out of the playoffs by inferior teams (Orlando then Boston). He followed that by joining a fellow MVP candidate (Dwayne Wade) and another All star (Chris Bosh). They got to the finals, but Lebron played poorly in those finals and lost to a team with only one superstar (Dirk).

Two years after that, he played extremely poorly down the stretch of an elimination game against the Spurs in the finals (game 6). Luckily, Ray Allen hit that shot that saved their season.

It doesn’t matter that Lebron only has 4 rings to Jordan’s 6. It doesn’t matter that Lebron has more finals losses than wins. What matters is that he choked when he was the top dog and was expected to win.

You CAN’T be the goat with that on your resume.