Michael Johnson - "N1ggas run fast because we come from slaves"

[Isaiah Bradley]

Ummmm some breeds of dog were bred doing nothing but mating for physical characterstics. If something worked then they kept doing it. They didnt need to know the exact science behind it.

The problem with the human breeding argument is that it wasnt done on a scale widespread enough and long enough to be responsible for increased athleticism. A couple slave owners in a state wouldnt be able to change the genetics of African Americans country wide.

but the dog breeding also produced non-ideal results for the human dog breeder. I think it's safe to suggest that there were more "failures" than "success" when randomly breeding dogs without proper knowledge

The scale of the "slave breeding" is my knockout punch in these kind of discussions. But before going to that, you have to set it up correctly by clearly proving how lazy in rational the other person is and how much the other person lacks perspective and understanding on the subject matter

Again, most folks, especially black, don't have a detailed grasp of black history, especially if the topic is not about slavery or civil rights

 

[DalMem]

SMH @ people calling Michael Johnson a c00n when his foundation have done a lot for the black community in the South Dallas area. He even open up a indoor track facility in South Dallas.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

I know this is a controversial and sensitive subject for blacks but to completely write off the theory isn't realistic since there is actual scientific and historic facts that back it up. I mean the article said that 14 of the 15 100-meter finalists at the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing were descendants of slaves. To completely ignore that fact and others that back up the theory would just be ignorant.

Actually, that article is an example of brainwashing. If you are lazy in your rational and perspective, you will always be a victim. There's no scientific and historic facts to back this up, trust me.

like I asked before in this thread, with no answer, maybe you will. How do you explain the dominance of sports by folks who don't have "history" of slavery

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Its not just the NBA though. Have you not been to a school in recent history? Its on display in kids from 5 up to college.

What is your reasoning for black kids in grade school running laps around the other races? They work harder at sports when they get home?

Again, don't focus on sports that supports your argument. Blacks are not dominating triathlons, rugby, soccer, cycling, and hockey

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

SMH @ people calling Michael Johnson a c00n when his foundation have done a lot for the black community in the South Dallas area. He even open up a indoor track facility in South Dallas.

you still avoiding this question, if there's no guarantees and you're dealing with "chance," then what variables were used by the slave master to better their chance to produce superior off-springs? Especially when you apply perspective to the discussion that the lineage of slaves sold were not kept

 

[///Vega+++]

way to downplay his own achievements
why did you take drugs then Mike if you were already so genetically superior. are you that lazy ?

 

[DalMem]

Again, don't focus on sports that supports your argument. Blacks are not dominating triathlons, rugby, soccer, cycling, and hockey

There's no reason to even argue with you anymore. You are completely clueless.

 

[biggaveli31]

"blacks have longer legs"

2nd paragraph.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/83/5/1414.full

This has nothing to do with slaves. But for whatever reason, Blacks seem to have longer legs, which presents a significant advantage in speed. Obviously other factors will influence successes in athletics, but this is just one example of how genetics play a part in the equation.

 

[DalMem]

you still avoiding this question, if there's no guarantees and you're dealing with "chance," then what variables were used by the slave master to better their chance to produce superior off-springs? Especially when you apply perspective to the discussion that the lineage of slaves sold were not kept

Go read about natural selection then think about the question that I have already answered.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

There's no reason to even argue with you anymore. You are completely clueless.

oh because those are not real sports?
What a poor way to avoid answering a simple question, very cowardly act

 

[The_Sheff]

Again, don't focus on sports that supports your argument. Blacks are not dominating triathlons, rugby, soccer, cycling, and hockey

The only sport on that list we participate in is soccer. And people of african decent do very well in that sport. How can we dominate sports we dont partake in? You might as well throw swimming, gymnastics, diving, snowboarding, skiing, etc... on your list.


You still arent answering why black kids are more athletic than their peers from a very young age, im talking gradeschool. I didnt get extra sports training when i went home from school but i damn sure was killing them white kids out on the field and so were the rest of my friends.

 

[DalMem]

The only sport on that list we participate in is soccer. How can we dominate sports we dont partake in? You might as well throw swimming, snowboarding, skiing, etc... on your list.

Exactly.

That why I said it is useless to even argue with him anymore.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Go read about natural selection then think about the question that I have already answered.

you need to re-read about natural selection. You don't fully understand it and you don't understand how it applies in these discussions. You have a simplistic view of what occur during slavery, with a grandiose view on the results of it. Especially from an act like slave breeding that was practiced more for economical reason, so that they don't have to constantly purchase new slaves

 

[DalMem]

you need to re-read about natural selection. You don't fully understand it and you don't understand how it applies in these discussions. You have a simplistic view of what occur during slavery, with a grandiose view on the results of it. Especially from an act like slave breeding that was practiced more for economical reason, so that they don't have to constantly purchase new slaves

Stop it breh. You have became status.

 

[Higher Tech]

If you don't think slavery had anything to do with the genetic makeup of modern descendants of slaves, then I think you're crazy.

It doesn't mean every descendant of a slave is going to be faster and stronger than every person alive either. It also doesn't mean that it's a trade off of intelligence. It just means that slaves were bread like horses to try to get the strongest slave by-product.

When strong genes keep mating, you keep having strong offspring. Every time isn't a success. With any mammal, the two strongest can bring about something weak. Two tall people don't always end up with tall kids. But, a short person with tall parents can have tall offspring.

Genetics plays a part, and affects some of the slave descendants, but it doesn't make them superhumans. Being faster and or stronger is a very real possibility.