“Michael Jackson ain’t never did Coachella” -Jay Z on Beyonce

[Big Boss]

Shes sold millions more than beyonce. Millions. World wide Mariah Carey > Beyonce, by a large margin. If we keeping it a buck, Beyonce only really big on social media. A cult like following. But her albums and songs say that outside her core base, the rest of the world dont really care bout her music. Not even top 10 successful female artist since she arrived. Legit 0 clue how she some “world icon” “biggest star in the world” she aint even Lady Gaga status

 

[Big Boss]

Excuses excuses….Beyonce still isn’t in her category (MJ, Elvis or Beatles category either ). It’s all hype The numbers don’t match the hype of her solo career

facts she should be doing MJ numbers

 

[Suzie]

He's merely pointing out the fact, When MJ was at the peak of his career Beyonce was 9 years old, Coachella wasn't even a thing back then, Beyonce has been famous since she was a teenager, and she's doing coachella which are kids far younger than her own age group and probably never heard of her destiny child albums, he's saying she's an evolution of MJ because of her longevity which has spanned generations, and he's right, MJ was popular with people's grandparents and their grand kids, he's career started in the 60s and peaked in the 90s, Beyonce is approaching nearly 30 years of revelance just like MJ

People aren’t stupid. What Jay z said was insulting towards MJ. Plus MJ was relevant for far longer than 30 years and still out performs Beyoncé on streaming and sales charts to this day. No need for Jay and Beys team to constantly belittle MJ and his accomplishments to try to prop Beyoncé up.

 

[Suzie]

Beyonce

So not true. Taylor Swift has been selling out tours in areas that Beyoncé hasn’t toured in a decade.

 

[alpo]

Who you believe is more recognizable and has more star power around the world Taylor Swift or B ?

the fact there is a question...

 

[Bmezy]

So not true. Taylor Swift has been selling out tours in areas that Beyoncé hasn’t toured in a decade.

Madonna being a bigger touring act than whitney/Celine/Mariah doesn’t give her more star power than them either.

Touring power isn’t the beginning and end of star power..
Beyoncé is more recognizable, her image and music is more iconic/influential due to her strong pop culture presence over 20+ years. They are modeling pop stars in SK after Beyonce today in 2021.. building a skyscraper in the image of her body in Australia

Beyoncé-inspired skyscraper to be built in Melbourne | Beyoncé | The Guardian

outside of Asia and Oceania Beyoncé is bigger in South America, Africa and edges her out in continental Europe

Taylor is clearly the bigger commercial draw for obvious reasons, but I don’t think Beyoncé’s star power in general as a celebrity, brand and pop culture fixture has been supplanted yet by Taylor who doesn’t cross generations, different races (Latino/black etc) the way Beyonce does

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Who you believe is more recognizable and has more star power around the world Taylor Swift or B ?

Taylor Swift because more white people listen to her music.

Not a knock on Beyonce but her music is for black women...and that's not a bad thing.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Madonna being a bigger touring act than whitney/Celine/Mariah doesn’t give her more star power than them either

I mean..I Madonna overrated but she's in that Whitney/Janet/Mariah category as far as Star Power.
Mariah got a bit of a cleaner image so I think she has more star power than Madonna but not by much.

 

[Suzie]

Madonna being a bigger touring act than whitney/Celine/Mariah doesn’t give her more star power than them either.

Touring power isn’t the beginning and end of star power..
Beyoncé is more recognizable, her image and music is more iconic/influential due to her strong pop culture presence over 20+ years. They are modeling pop stars in SK after Beyonce today in 2021.. building a skyscraper in the image of her body in Australia

Beyoncé-inspired skyscraper to be built in Melbourne | Beyoncé | The Guardian

outside of Asia and Oceania Beyoncé is bigger in South America, Africa and edges her out in continental Europe

Taylor is clearly the bigger commercial draw for obvious reasons, but I don’t think Beyoncé’s star power in general as a celebrity, brand and pop culture fixture has been supplanted yet by Taylor who doesn’t cross generations, different races (Latino/black etc) the way Beyonce does

But that’s based on your limited point of view. Madonna is not only more popular than the ladies mentioned but she has more star power as well outside of Whitney. They were equals.

Beyoncé may have more star power than TSwift in America and maybe Africa. But America is debatable and TSwift is bigger than Bey in Asia and equal in Europe. Idk about South America. Your view is tainted because you’re viewing Bey from the lens of an American.

 

[Suzie]

I mean..I Madonna overrated but she's in that Whitney/Janet/Mariah category as far as Star Power.
Mariah got a bit of a cleaner image so I think she has more star power than Madonna but not by much.

Mariah is more relevant than Madonna in the US today but that’s it.

 

[Solo_87]

But that’s based on your limited point of view. Madonna is not only more popular than the ladies mentioned but she has more star power as well outside of Whitney. They were equals.

Beyoncé may have more star power than TSwift in America and maybe Africa. But America is debatable and TSwift is bigger than Bey in Asia and equal in Europe. Idk about South America. Your view is tainted because you’re viewing Bey from the lens of an American.

Believe Bey is bigger in South America particularly in Brazil. Know there she is one of the top selling international artist

And yes bigger in Africa

She was the lead and face of one of the top selling girl groups ever.top 3. DC was world famous before we knew who Taylor Swift was

 

[Solo_87]

Taylor Swift because more white people listen to her music.

Not a knock on Beyonce but her music is for black women...and that's not a bad thing.

B caters to blk women but her music is enjoyed by all demos....she don't reach her level otherwise

 

[Formerly known as...]

We can't compare MJ and Beyonce. Stop.

It's Michael Jackson.

 

[ItzRailT]

He hyping his wife up but Beyoncé is no where near the level of Michael Jackson he has timeless music that will be remembered for generations while Beyoncé music will only be a throwback on local 103 Jamz.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

People aren’t stupid. What Jay z said was insulting towards MJ. Plus MJ was relevant for far longer than 30 years and still out performs Beyoncé on streaming and sales charts to this day. No need for Jay and Beys team to constantly belittle MJ and his accomplishments to try to prop Beyoncé up.

he is stupid and knows that MJ ain’t here to clap back but Mariah would in an instant even tho they are “cool” with each other.

Beyoncé is a worker and I’ll give her credit but her solo body of work can barely touch Mariah (or Madonna) so MJ shouldn’t be in the conversation. His Jackson 5/Jacksons stuff shyts on her catalog and where are her real classics? She rides waves just like her husband and sacrifices a quality project because these days it’s safer to be a “vibe” than anything else.

End to end there’s no completion for Michael Jackson because this dude has eras that will body any artist. Who can compete with the Thriller/Bad era? Let’s be real. And those who don’t do their homework and are flat out ignorant would be flat out humbled by the amount of hits the Jackson 5/Jacksons have with Michael leading the way the entire time.