Method Man - Tical 25th Anniversary

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Good album.

Can understand where people would feel the album as a whole was 'disappointing' given how much of a factor Meth was at the time.

Meth was the Michael Jackson of the Wu. That is how big he was.

But Tical wasn't Off the Wall necessarily.

Wasn't trying to be looking back. Definitely wasn't a commercial album. Gritty as it gets.

Bring the Pain and it's video were bigger than life. Release Yo Delf.

And then the Puffy remix of All I need helped too.

Loved the RZA's remix video version though.

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Lyrically, Meth was still more into flow and sing-song mode and riding beats.

Blue Raspberry's soulful vocals. :wow:
In retrospect, RZA's production work on this album is underrated :whoo:

It is the underrated star of the album.

dirty, gritty, and grimy :wow:

Other favs:

Title track. So gritty. Sewer music.
Biscuits (RZA's vocal samples on that....:damn:)

Bring the Pain :banderas:



What the Blood clot. :whoo:
Sub Crazy (RZA was on some sh*t with that one....:whoo:)

P.L.O. Style :wow:


I get my thang in action (underrated gem) :banderas:

Stimulation :wow:

This was Meth's best album as a whole. Lyrically, he got better with his later work. Seemed like he stepped it more consistently with the lyrics running with Red.

What you can say about Tical is that Meth held up the flag. Meth was a star before this album. He could have easily reached for the commercial heights of Snoop or Biggie. But Tical showed Meth stayed true. Kept it Wu. Upheld the Wu brand and its credibility. Showed the crew wasn't a flash in the pan. He kicked off the solo wave. Kept the brand strong where fans were amped to hear what's next from the solo releases. And we certainly weren't disappointed with Return, Cuban Linx, and Liquid Swords. :wow:


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I liked this album but let's say very underwhelming when compared to the other Wu solo releases like Liquid Swords, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Ironman, Return to the 3 Chambers. It's still solid but the RZA production isn't nearly as interesting as most would hope. The album as a whole is pretty modest, and doesn't carry the same dark and intriguing atmosphere that makes Wu releases from 1993-95 so damn appealing. I'm just being honest about it.


don't forget rza studio flooded during this album and all the beats had to be recreated.
 

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Classic. fukk the haters and fukk the flood, as there’s no guarantee that the lost album was better. Based on the OG beat for “Sub Crazy” & and another vaulted instrumental I heard, it would’ve been just as dark as the retail version. Casual nikkaz/especially broads just thought every song would sound like “All I Need”, and felt played. They’ll be alright.

I wouldn’t mind hearing the OG album, but it wouldn’t change how I felt about what we got.
 
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Classic. fukk the haters and fukk the flood, as there’s no guarantee that the lost album was better. Based on the OG beat for “Sub Crazy” & and another vaulted instrumental I heard, it would’ve been just as dark as the retail version. Casual nikkaz/especially broads just thought every song would sound like “All I Need”, and felt played. They’ll be alright.

I wouldn’t mind hearing the OG album, but it wouldn’t change how I felt about what we got.

Where can I hear the OG Sub Crazy?
 

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Albums Tical is markedly better than:

blueprint
Black album
Any Ye album
any Lupe album
sny Nas album not named Illmatic
Life After Death
All Eyez On Me
The Diary
Either fake Clipse “classic”
Be



I could go on and on
 

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Where can I hear the OG Sub Crazy?



The “vaulted instrumental”:



The only thing different is the re-added drums, but they give it a different feel IMO. It was included on the Tical instrumental album, so it’s legit. Also, the original “PLO Style” had a Luther Vandross “If this world we’re miiiiiiine....” vocal sample. It was on the maxi-single, but I can’t find it anywhere online.
 

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The “vaulted instrumental”:



The only thing different is the re-added drums, but they give it a different feel IMO. It was included on the Tical instrumental album, so it’s legit. Also, the original “PLO Style” had a Luther Vandross “If this world we’re miiiiiiine....” vocal sample. It was on the maxi-single, but I can’t find it anywhere online.


I used that 'unknown instrumental' for my M.E.T.H.O.D. Man blend on this mixtape. I have that Sub Crazy inst, but never listened closely enough to know that it was different. I have the Bring The Pain 12" with PLO Style on the b-side, but there's no Vandross sample on mine though....
 

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Someone out there needs to do proper vinyl rips of 36 Chambers and the first wu solos. Been trying to find one of LS forever.

I feel the same way about Tical as ODB’s debut. Is it perfect? Nah. Is it classic? Hell fukking yeah.

sub crazy, meth vs chef, biscuits. I still remember where I was when I heard Mr Sandman for the first time.
 
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