Meta aka facebook getting rid of all DEI program's EDIT: AMAZON joins EDIT2: TARGET TOO

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Bruh the DEI shyt is bullshyt at tech companies anyway. It's just an excuse to force companies to interview people they have no intentions of hiring. And now companies create fake jobs just to waste people of color's time doing interviews and assessments for a position that doesn't exist so their interview stats look "diverse."

Maybe DEI is different in different industries but I don't see it helping at least black folks in the world of tech especially at mid and small companies.
In some companies it manifested into more employee resource groups that helped highlight more traditionally marginalized groups. I helped on a Black board at a previous company. We had an executive sponsor. I think at BEST it helped to protect people that worked there already and help navigate the politics at work, helped identify charitable causes that aligned with specific goals for our group, but did it ultimately help Black people get in the door more or make more? Doubtful. A culture of diversity and equity has to be already ingrained in the psychology and ethos of the company first. Some were just doing to save face.
 

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All the DEI gains at Meta for black people were in the DEI department they created to address DEI. Other than that, no difference.


Asians ate even though somehow they aren't socially considered to be diversity hires. But if you look at all these diversity numbers at all these tech companies, DEI = more Asians. They're group that saw the biggest gains in representation by far during the DEI era:francis:
These are facts!!!!!
 

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this the new "affirmative action only helped white women" eh

if something helps 1 black person and 1 non-white man yall write the whole shyt off. just childish
It's stupidity. You see a lot of dumb shyt get pushed on here. This one irritates me the most because I've been able to get several young black kids out of college into our company with these programs. And nikkas are shrugging their shoulders just because it potentially helped other groups. It's this ignorant burn it all down mentality if it potentially helps someone other than black people.
 

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Bruh the DEI shyt is bullshyt at tech companies anyway. It's just an excuse to force companies to interview people they have no intentions of hiring. And now companies create fake jobs just to waste people of color's time doing interviews and assessments for a position that doesn't exist so their interview stats look "diverse."

Maybe DEI is different in different industries but I don't see it helping at least black folks in the world of tech especially at mid and small companies.
These are big facts!!!!!
 

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Of course a few black people will be helped and it will usually be at the bottom. A black man with little to no job experience will get a entry level job.

DEI will not help that same man become an exec or anything higher than a senior position
You cookin bruh!!!!
 

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this the new "affirmative action only helped white women" eh

if something helps 1 black person and 1 non-white man yall write the whole shyt off. just childish

Here's the DEI numbers. More than happy to explain them to you. I fall in the "tech" category and have to explain numbers to people with PHDs in numbers almost every week. Because I fall in the "tech" category I live a different experience than people who fall in the "non-tech" category and thus am judged by an entirely different set of standards you very clearly wouldn't understand.


:yeshrug:
 

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Exactly, DEI was a fukkin marketing ploy by companies for image purposes and not an actual movement

Yeah, I remember having these conversations with my colleagues back then. These companies were giving Black artists all kinds of opportunities. We were warned to not expect it to last forever and take advantage of them while they last. Some people are slow though and think that these companies really care about Black people.
 

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Of course a few black people will be helped and it will usually be at the bottom. A black man with little to no job experience will get a entry level job.

DEI will not help that same man become an exec or anything higher than a senior position

Okay, but if the programs help young black kids out of college secure good paying entry level jobs, isn’t that better than not having the programs at all?

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not one of these brain dead #bothsiders.
 

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It's stupidity. You see a lot of dumb shyt get pushed on here. This one irritates me the most because I've been able to get several young black kids out of college into our company with these programs. And nikkas are shrugging their shoulders just because it potentially helped other groups. It's this ignorant burn it all down mentality if it potentially helps someone other than black people.

Americans ain’t serious people breh

But real talk brothers like you doing the damn thing so its nothing but love and respect on this end.
 

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Here's the DEI numbers. More than happy to explain them to you. I fall in the "tech" category and have to explain numbers to people with PHDs in numbers every day. Because I fall in the "tech" category I live a different experience than people who fall in the "non-tech" category and thus am judged by an entirely different set of standards you very clearly wouldn't understand.


:yeshrug:

We have doubled the number of Black and Hispanic employees in the US.

I got here and stopped scrolling

Something that DID help some black people is still better than nothing, and yall act like it isnt and being shut out of these white-loving systems is preferable
 

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Okay, but if the programs help young black kids out of college secure good paying entry level jobs, isn’t that better than not having the programs at all?

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not one of these brain dead #bothsiders.
I'm not bothsides I'm a tech professional with over 10 years experience and I am having an honest conversation about how the industry works. Yes, an entry level job is better than nothing. I'm not saying these DEI programs are totally useless. Im just saying there is a glass ceiling on how far these programs will take you.
 

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I got here and stopped scrolling

Something that DID help some black people is still better than nothing, and yall act like it isnt and being shut out of these white-loving systems is preferable
I mean I expect people who half read articles and avoid numbers to make the statements you make. It was very clear from the first post you are that guy.:yeshrug:
 

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I'm not bothsides I'm a tech professional with over 10 years experience and I am having an honest conversation about how the industry works. Yes, an entry level job is better than nothing. I'm not saying these DEI programs are totally useless. Im just saying there is a glass ceiling on how far these programs will take you.

We are in agreement. Increasing the pool of black people at the entry level should increase the chances of advancement. (In theory anyway). At the very least, black kids get to eat.
 
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