Menace II Society: Did Caine actually have an epiphany and evolve past street sh1t before he died?

[Achille]

Boyz is still the better film

R.I.P John Singleton

Both films are great films and display black people have relatable stories to tell too.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Basically. Dude was a POS, but, the main character.

He wasn’t a piece of shyt

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

nikka Boyz N The Hood can’t compare to the greates movie of all time. Shareef pops dropped more gems in one scene than Tre dad did the whole movie.



That nikka Tre was a bytch, so how good of a father was that nikka Laurence Fishburn? This bytch nikka crying to get p*ssy acting all soft and shyt. Went on a mission with the homies knowing damn well he wasn’t bout that shyt then told nikkas to let him out in the middle of the fukking mission. Should have shot his bytch ass for playing. His daddy raised a hoe. nikka lied to his dad about getting p*ssy.

Menace was real. Who knows if Caine had turned all the way around. Probably not. He had enough sense to go to Atlanta and try to get away but that nikka was young and p*ssy whipped like my nikka O Dog said so that was a part of it. He still was a G. I could see that nikka going to Atlanta and getting on some street shyt. Think this nikka was gon work at McDonalds Just like it he would have went to Kansas with Stacy and Shareef. He probably would had a trap booming out that bytch. But Menace was realistic. nikkas don’t change overnight. It showed you life is fukked up. The harsh realities of the hood. How O Dog was still standing out of everybody? Boyz N the Hood on the other hand had the lil Ricky shyt but that movie don’t deserved to be mentioned with Menace. Menace should have won the Oscar but they don’t wanna recognize greatness

This is from the perspective of a cracka... or something similar

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

This is from the perspective of a cracka... or something similar

nikka I will slap the shyt out you

 

[Justin Nitsuj]

Caine was basically dead from the beginning of the movie. Him being the narrator throughout the movie was a way of saying all the wrong you did in life, it would eventually catch up with you. That's the whole message of Menace II Society.

 

[richaveli83]

Boyz always came off as too preachy. I liked it but always preferred Menace.

 

[Biscayne]

These two are often compared when they seem to be tackling two completely different aspects of the young black man’s plight. Boyz was more of a cautionary tale and showing that there are people who care and trying to do the right thing with their children despite sometime seemingly insurmountable obstacles.

Where as Menace is illustrating where do the hopeless come from? When you’re facing an upbringing as Caine did how can you do better? That life was literally all he knew from damn near birth. Yea his homeboy would drop knowledge but Caine’s mind was so engulfed, none of that registered. Did he have an epiphany, yes and a big one for him. Sadly it was only to believe his life was worth living. Menace shows how the O Dogs, Doughboys and most of the other killers get that way

Both movies are must owns.

This. Ppl trying to over simplify BoyzNThaHood saying things like "This isn't as realistic as Menace" as if there aren't parents and black fathers in the hood actively trying to steer their kids from the BS. The nihilism of Menace doesn't make Boyz N The Hood any less real.

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

RIP singleton

when I watched menace recently I was struck by how much it seemed like chief keef copped o dog's swag wholesale

also dead presidents stay underrated as fukk

 

[b. woods]

Jada probably ended up stripping at Magic City to support her son

I'm assuming they postponed all that sh1t and didn't leave until after Caine and Shareef's funerals tho

Caine's seed he had with that thot grew up to be a top goon, his Unc' never got arrested and he never found out that he killed his real pops. Let your opps raise ur seed brehs

Lil dude never even met his Unc' O-dog cause he was sent up for a life sentence like his character in Dead Presidents

 

[karim]

I remember as a kid preferring Menace over Boyz N The Hood simply because it seemed Menace was more lit because it had more violence, cursing and street sh1t.

But looking back on it I'm not sure if Caine actually learned any lessons at all. He just did a lot of dumb sh1t and then got killed.



And all this took place after the opening scene where O dog shot the Chinese store owners







The overall ending and message in Boyz N the Hood was 10x better (Which is be a father to your child and the morals and wisdom you teach him will stick with him forever and help rise above the bullsh1t)


its also ironic that Pac was fired from this film when the ending pretty much ended the same way Pac's real life did (getting killed after stomping some breh out)

and imo Shareefs death was more tragic, cause he was actually a good dude who didn't do dirt, killed for simply being affiliated with dudes that did.




Still a hood classic but its no way in hell a better film than Boyz N The Hood

Furious was dropping gems throughout, Lawrence Fishburne should have won an Oscar

There are two different philosophies behind Menace and Boyz n tha hood. Boyz is basically saying that personal responsibility is the main driver behind how your life turns out to be, while Menace is saying that your surroundings and social srructures are the main determinants: You might try to change your life, but the chances of that actually working out are minimal if you are caught up in the hood.

Personally, I think Menace has the more realistic outlook. And It doesn't absolve society from failing these young black men by making it mainly about personal choices.

 

[hayesc0]

He did learn his lesson it just took death for him to learn it. The point of the movie is telling people you must learn the lesson before you die lol.

 

[Food Mane]

nikka Boyz N The Hood can’t compare to the greates movie of all time. Shareef pops dropped more gems in one scene than Tre dad did the whole movie.



That nikka Tre was a bytch, so how good of a father was that nikka Laurence Fishburn? This bytch nikka crying to get p*ssy acting all soft and shyt. Went on a mission with the homies knowing damn well he wasn’t bout that shyt then told nikkas to let him out in the middle of the fukking mission. Should have shot his bytch ass for playing. His daddy raised a hoe. nikka lied to his dad about getting p*ssy.

Menace was real. Who knows if Caine had turned all the way around. Probably not. He had enough sense to go to Atlanta and try to get away but that nikka was young and p*ssy whipped like my nikka O Dog said so that was a part of it. He still was a G. I could see that nikka going to Atlanta and getting on some street shyt. Think this nikka was gon work at McDonalds Just like it he would have went to Kansas with Stacy and Shareef. He probably would had a trap booming out that bytch. But Menace was realistic. nikkas don’t change overnight. It showed you life is fukked up. The harsh realities of the hood. How O Dog was still standing out of everybody? Boyz N the Hood on the other hand had the lil Ricky shyt but that movie don’t deserved to be mentioned with Menace. Menace should have won the Oscar but they don’t wanna recognize greatness

 

[BXKingPin82]

anybody else ever notice that in damn near every hood flik from the 90s theres that one scene towards the end when everyone is all laughing together and happy and shyt then it fades?

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

Kinda, it was really just a product of him dying. If he lived he probably would’ve been right back in it

 

[head shots101]

fukked with menace more.....Cuba was so damn corny to me