Men should have equal say when it comes to abortion

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That would never happen because I'd use protection. :patrice:
But is that where they go to get abortions? :patrice: *texts a friend and ask*

You do know a condom is not 100% right?

and that's the spot, been there twice :whew: :demonic: forgive me Father.
 
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You do know a condom is not 100% right?

and that's the spot, been there twice :whew: :demonic: forgive me Father.

Honestly I don't have to worry about that stuff because a) I don't have sex b) there's plan b if I'm that paranoid.
The only time anything is going inside me with no protection is if I intend on having a kid. Yes condoms aren't 100 percent but I'm too paranoid and careful for slip ups like that.
 

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You do know a condom is not 100% right?

and that's the spot, been there twice :whew: :demonic: forgive me Father.
Is it too much to pair a condom with a woman who's on birth control herself? I'm saying tho, two 99.8% chance of not failing is better than one right? :yeshrug:

Get to know the woman you choose to have sex with well enough to know that she's responsibly taking her birth control.
 

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Is it too much to pair a condom with a woman who's on birth control herself? I'm saying tho, two 99.8% chance of not failing is better than one right? :yeshrug:

Get to know the woman you choose to have sex with well enough to know that she's responsibly taking her birth control.

That is true but how many people take that precaution?

Anyways I should be the last person talking about protection anyways.
 

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Honestly I don't have to worry about that stuff because a) I don't have sex b) there's plan b if I'm that paranoid.
The only time anything is going inside me with no protection is if I intend on having a kid. Yes condoms aren't 100 percent but I'm too paranoid and careful for slip ups like that.

your celibate since when?
 

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That is true but how many people take that precaution?

Anyways I should be the last person talking about protection anyways.
That's the problem now. One is hoping the other person is doing right so they can do wrong (She's on bc, he can skeet up in her or vice versa)

When shyt blows up a few weeks later no one wants to take the blame and it's unnecessary finger pointing.

If both parties got to know each other better then unwanted pregancies can be avoided thus the whole "who really has control for an abortion" debate.
 

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That's the problem now. One is hoping the other person is doing right so they can do wrong (She's on bc, he can skeet up in her or vice versa)

When shyt blows up a few weeks later no one wants to take the blame and it's unnecessary finger pointing.

If both parties got to know each other better then unwanted pregancies can be avoided thus the whole "who really has control for an abortion" debate.

all good points, I've been told when i was young and dumb and demonic, "i'm on the pill", "i have a iud inside me", " i have a scarred uterus", only to get that missed period call
 

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If both parties were responsible then this wouldn't be an issue.

Ultimately, it is in fact the woman's decision since she's the one that's pregnant. If you don't like it, don't get her pregnant. If you think she the type to pull some trickery then don't fukk with her period.
 

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We've had this argument before.

The right to privacy prevents this from even being feasible. The woman has the right to make decisions about anything that is in her body.

With that being said, she should have full discretion on whether or not she wants to have an abortion.

But at the same time, a man should have the right to decide whether or not he wants to be a father, and not using a condom is not considered implied consent

A man should be able to sign a waiver during the first trimester of pregnancy, that he does not agree to the pregnancy and does not wish to partake in parenthood. He should then be vindicated of all responsibility because at this point, the woman is aware that the man does not want to be a father and will not be in the child's life. She is now making a "conscious" decision to be a single mother.

She should not receive child support, because when she made the conscious decision to be a single mother, she was aware that she would have to support the child alone.

This is different from a father abandoning the child after birth or signing the birth certificate. Also, if the man does not sign waivers before the 2nd trimester, he will be held accountable for child support if the child is his.

On the contrary, if he waives his right.. he can't change his mind. He cannot come back and declare that he is the child's father. He has no rights to that child. He can not receive a DNA test or anything relating to the mother or child.

I think this is fair brehs

:leon: Well stated sir :salute:
 
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