some people genuinely believe this person is their only shot.People are selfish and don't want to deal with what comes with the truth. Men don't want to deal with not getting what they want, awkward convos, women's feelings, being the bad guy etc...I don't understand wanting to trick someone, when there are plenty of women who will do whatever willingly without being tricked. Women don't want to hear...basically what they don't want to hearso they try to make something happen when you really can't.
I appreciate everyone who is honest with me. Some much less drama that way. Feelings may be hurt but I would rather deal with just that, than with that in addition to lies. I never understood how someone could be that cruel or uncaring about another person, but more people than I thought are like that.
MEN, how do you do it? [relationships]
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We don't feel bad for people that get scammed out of their money, I don't really feel bad for women that get scammed out their draws 
I mean I can tell a snake type of nikka a mile away, a lot of women want to believe the dream a dude is selling them. I feel bad for the woman married to a man that has a second family and pretends to go to work or something, but a chick meeting a dude at a club, bar or on tinder/POF site and thinking he's not a predator is just comical to me.
As long as their adults, it's up to them to sift through the bullshyt. And I say that as someone that has never cheated on a woman before, and I've honestly never led a chick into thinking there was a relationship waiting when we exit those bedsheets.
I mean I can tell a snake type of nikka a mile away, a lot of women want to believe the dream a dude is selling them. I feel bad for the woman married to a man that has a second family and pretends to go to work or something, but a chick meeting a dude at a club, bar or on tinder/POF site and thinking he's not a predator is just comical to me. As long as their adults, it's up to them to sift through the bullshyt. And I say that as someone that has never cheated on a woman before, and I've honestly never led a chick into thinking there was a relationship waiting when we exit those bedsheets.
I disagree. Most of the type of men that would lie like that think they have plenty of options. Men don't want a hoe, they just want women to act like hoes. They will
a "hoe" or a woman open about her sexuality. Then lie to a woman who doesn't want to be one, treat her like one. Then call her stupid and a hoe if they succeed.
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We can't have a convo if she suckin me
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
1. I am in the camp that says you can have "intellectual conversation" with anyone.
2. You don't have to "psychologically abuse" a woman to make get to a point she's willing to do anything in the world for you because she's afraid of losing you. If she really likes you, she'll do anything anyway. Which is why you always just have to be yourself.
3. A womans' feelings can be hurt by anything you say, even if it isn't "fucced up" per se. So no, I don't stay up late wondering if
a woman has hurt feelings.
4. I don't hide anything from a lady i'm with. If i'm not "with" her, she doesn't need to know what i'm doing all the time. So no.
We don't feel bad for people that get scammed out of their money, I don't really feel bad for women that get scammed out their draws
As long as their adults, it's up to them to sift through the bullshyt. And I say that as someone that has never cheated on a woman before, and I've honestly never led a chick into thinking there was a relationship waiting when we exit those bedsheets.
for every woman that was scammed or played there were at least 3 people in her inner circle who told her that nukka was no good
that can be true as well sometimes. but sometimes also, a guy could meet a girl and she seems semi-open. and if he's never been with a chick as attractive as her PLUS he has low self-esteem, he'll think that's his only shot at sleeping with a chick this attractive. in his mind that's his only opportunity at happiness because settling for the other option (for a "lesser" woman) isn't an option.I disagree. Most of the type of men that would lie like that think they have plenty of options. Men don't want a hoe, they just want women to act like hoes. They will
Also, in a way, you can't really trick a woman into sex. she tricks herself. but that's a whole other thread...
Aceofspades404
Superstar
how about men who fake relationships? I'm talking about the ones who get into a relationship for convenience. Never treated her wrong buy knew he wasn't going to marry her. Does this guy fit into the "no good" category b/c there are plenty of men who do this.
women end 70% of relationships
chicks be with men for liek 5 years and never even getting a ring then wondering why wont he marry me
If it's handled correctly, no one should. I see a female I simply want to sleep or "have fun," with, when she makes it known she's also attracted to me, I let her know my intent. Lightheartedly steering the conversation towards sex, light touches here or there. She decides whether or not to consent without commitment. Some do. Some don't. In a thread awhile back that was discussing a similar topic, I recalled trying to get intimate with a female who sat next to me in class. Problem is, she wanted a lot more than Netflix, occasional conversation and sex. I didn't - not with her, anyway. She told me straight up that she wasn't sleeping with me w/o commitment and so I kept it moving.
I personally don't have the energy to keep up a facade to sleep with one female. Unless her vagina is the key to prosperity and wealth, it's easier to move on and find one whose current outlook as it pertains to intimacy matches up with yours. In that case, no one is taken advantage of. You want a wife but this particular female doesn't view you as a long term mate but only a screw and drinking buddy? Cross her out and move on so that you won't feel hurt when you see her out with a guy she calls her boyfriend. Same with the reverse. You assess the direction this person wants to go and how serious they take you and your company, and you either consent or you don't.
Yes. They aren't mutually exclusive. Thing is, not everyone minds being seen by a particular person as a "sexual object." It's used as a degrading term but at the end of the day, not every woman you've ever met that you were sexually attracted to could "mentally stimulate" you. Most of us aren't going to stop sleeping with that person if the sex is great and both are okay with that. This only becomes a problem to people - particularly women - when their feelings go from being strictly based on lust, to actually beginning to like and yearn for the person they're sleeping with, in which case that's when it comes time to end it if one party is not willing to commit.
I don't think that makes it ok to lie. Even if he thinks a woman is out his league. If a woman is dealing with you, she wants you. People never know what insecurities the other person has as well. So a woman should have the right to choose if she wants the same things as the person she deals with. A lot of guys lie for no reason, I'll just go a head and say a lot of people lie for no reason. To themselves and others.
I agree with your last point. I am not talking about women who ignore blatant signs and common sense. I am also not talking about women who think they can use sex to change a mans mind.
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Aceofspades404
Superstar
That's the thing, these men know they are not going to marry the current girl so why not end things yourself? You proved my point, most of the time it's the woman who ends the relationship b/c she finally realized this guy wasn't serious, but why won't you just be a man about yours?
because as long as a man is getting loyalty, sex and cooked food and not constantly being nagged he's happy.
why would any man end a relationship with a woman who does that?
Aceofspades404
Superstar
What about men who are in relationships for convenience? It's probably not a bold faced trick but there is deception.