Good reply, because if you start talking about outside of NYC and influence, Ice Cube is way more important than most NYC mcs, and straight outta Compton is way more important to NYC hip hop than 95% of your list.
Who's gonna take the bait?
Meccapolis Top 100 NY Hip Hop Albums List (Full List In OP)
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Good reply, because if you start talking about outside of NYC and influence, Ice Cube is way more important than most NYC mcs, and straight outta Compton is way more important to NYC hip hop than 95% of your list.
Who's gonna take the bait?
Right. Second half of 1993 you still had a bunch of New York artists on the Das EFX wiggity wiggity stiggity stiggity style or more animated, dated flows. Even on a lot of 36 Chambers. Like Method Man, the track, for example. Classic track but nobody was rhyming like that anymore a year later. After Illmatic in early 1994 that shyt was dead basically overnight. The smoother, more precise rhyme style was in fashion right away.
I understand Illmatic fatigue but to pretend that it ain't have a major impact right away in New York is wild.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
This here.
Q-Tip is one of Hip Hop's most important people. The Infamous isn't the album it is today, without Tip. He changed the whole album. And that's one of my favorites of all time, so I'm good with it being #1 for the city. Tip's influence is unavoidable. He's been a part of some of Hip Hop's best sh*t ever. Including Illmatic, so he's always been Top 3 and one of my GOAT's.
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Q-Tip is the most underrated producer at this point.
He didn’t have anything to do with Shook Ones Pt 2 though.
Q tip is underrated as a figure in Hip Hop to the casual fan, i've said before he might be top 5 influential artists in rap history, if you look at what hes done by himself and his group but also his contributions to others, as you say Infamous, Illmatic, his influence on Kanye Dilla, Dre, its almost unparalleled.
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also for the NY heads in here (particular @Awesome Wells, @FreshAIG )...Is gangstarr a NY duo? Premier is from Texas...Guru is from boston.
Why are they on the list?
Why are they on the list?
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
FACTS!
I had a conversation with Sadat X recently. And we were cracking up because in '93, there were MC's who had only been rocking for like 6-7 years who were considered "old school" already! Hip Hop has always dated things weirdly, lol. KRS had only been out for a few years, and was already seen as an old head by '93. Return of the Boom Bap, which is a wild classic and wasn't on this list, was supposed to be his way of going into the "new school".
We were buggin' out over how we were already telling MC's just several years into their careers back then, that they were the "old rappers". LOL!! It's hilarious.
MisterMajesty
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it might be too much for 100, but i'd love a description of like...say the top 30. Hell, this makes me want to take a crack at my own top 100 NY rap albums myself (though i ain't from NY fwiw. I have heard most of these albums sans 15)
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Tip mixed the whole album.
Those are his drums too. He gave Havoc his drum kits for a lot of those tracks. So joints like "Q.U. Hectic" and "Survival of the Fittest", all produced by Hav, but he was using Tip's kits. That's when the album turned around. Matt and Schott are my OG's, so I had the advance copy before Tip changed everything. Both versions are like night and day. He really made this album what it is today.
MisterMajesty
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So THAT is why Bonita applebum and god pt3 have the same drums...
Also, is that advance copy on the net to hear?
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
They'll always be NY because they formed here.
Premier always says that his sound and everything that Gang Starr was about was born in New York. So Large Professor teaching him how to use the SP, and him meeting Guru in NY and them moving to the Bronx together and deciding to make Gang Starr a duo, all comes from the city.
I consider them a East Coast group but not a NY group but most people do
You can make the argument that Black Sheep isn't a n NY group either.
Brand Nubian's debut not cracking the top 100 is comical. The Top 10 had me laughing out loud.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
True, but that was a famous break though. Everyone was using those drums back then. HAHA!
Yeah, that OG version of The Infamous has kinda always been around online. Shouldn't be too hard to find, at all.
I hate to say it but I think it's true, Tip and Tribe in general don't get the credit they deserve because they labeled as "conscious" and not seen as "street" enough by too many listeners.
