Meccapolis ranks “Kings Of New York” from 1985 to 2024

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Lets break it down. Dudes like Ja Rule and Jadakiss were contenders. They were in the running, they even challenged for it, but they never had the crown. When Kiss went solo and was leading up to his solo debut, he was a contender. He was definitely the people’s champion. We Gonna Make It was the song that summer. But Kiss The Game Goodbye missed the mark. Even before all that, Kiss was the feature on the original versions to Kells Fiesta and Mya’s Best of Me. What Jay do? Hopped on the remixes and made us forget about the originals. Later on, Jay wisely put Beans and State Prop on him to keep him where he was at.

Ja and Murder Inc was killing it, no doubt! They had the hits and radio. And honestly, if it wasn’t for Nas waking up out of his sleep, Ja would’ve been Jay’s top contender for that spot. No question. But as big as Murda Inc was in 01 and 02, all the 13-18 year old kids at the time wanted to be Roc-A-Fella. They wanted to be like Jay. Even at the time, nikkas in my age bracket was dikk riding Jay’s mannerisms, all the way down to how he wore his baseball caps. Jay’s character was the prototype that the kids wanted to emulate out here in 1999-2003/04. I know this because I have younger cousins and nephews that are 35, 36, 37, 38. Yea they fukked with Ja. But when it came to freestyles on mixtapes or Hot 97. When they would get into arguments about who was the best rapper, it was always between Jay and Nas. And Kiss name would be brought up in the convo before Ja’s name would even be mentioned. AND sometimes before Nas (Nas fans don’t get mad :lolbron:Plus, when 50 and G-Unit came along, the rest was history.
 
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Bro.. moving past that. Ja has never in his life sniffed nowhere the accomplishments LL has. Ja caeer was done by his 4th year. LL was still going platinum til I think 2004. That damn near 20 years from his debut..dont mention them in the same breath

Yall can ride that Rakim hype train if you want.. stats show who was bigger.

Yall quick to use Jay mainstream stats over Nas.. now it dont count when its " big plate of fish, which is my favorite dish" Rakim..lol.

Yall hate to not give these superior props to Ra when his stats are mid as fuhk on the whole.

Are we talking career and longevity or are we talking in the moment? I never brought up LL or Rakim stats. I only said what it was at the moment. Rakim redefined lyricism and changed the game and was the biggest thing in NYC in 1987. That's what I'm talking, fukk all that other shyt.
 

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Jada in 2004 makes no sense given the perceived criteria.
Album went gold. Singles weren’t that big and the album was mid.

Banks had a better 2004 from a commercial perspective
 

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Are we talking career and longevity or are we talking in the moment? I never brought up LL or Rakim stats. I only said what it was at the moment. Rakim redefined lyricism and changed the game and was the biggest thing in NYC in 1987. That's what I'm talking, fukk all that other shyt.


Imma let you have it.. Rakim was the king of 87.. whoopty dooo

Just know he was opening for LL while he was.. smh
 

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Lets break it down. Dudes like Ja Rule and Jadakiss were contenders. They were in the running, they even challenged for it, but they never had the crown. When Kiss went solo and was leading up to his solo debut, he was a contender. He was definitely the people’s champion. We Gonna Make It was the song that summer. But Kiss The Game Goodbye missed the mark. Even before all that, Kiss was the feature on the original versions to Kells Fiesta and Mya’s Best of Me. What Jay do? Hopped on the remixes and made us forget about the originals. Later on, Jay wisely put Beans and State Prop on him to keep him where he was at.

Ja and Murder Inc was killing it, no doubt! They had the hits and radio. And honestly, if it wasn’t for Nas waking up out of his sleep, Ja would’ve been Jay’s top contender for that spot. No question. But as big as Murda Inc was in 01 and 02, all the 13-18 year old kids at the time wanted to be Roc-A-Fella. They wanted to be like Jay. Even at the time, nikkas in my age bracket was dikk riding Jay’s mannerisms, all the way down to how he wore his baseball caps. Jay’s character was the prototype that the kids wanted to emulate out here in 1999-2003/04. I know this because I have younger cousins and nephews that are 35, 36, 37, 38. Yea they fukked with Ja. But when it came to freestyles on mixtapes or Hot 97. When they would get into arguments about who was the best rapper, it was always between Jay and Nas. And Kiss name would be brought up in the convo before Ja’s name would even be mentioned. AND sometimes before Nas (Nas fans don’t get mad :lolbron:Plus, when 50 and G-Unit came along, the rest was history.

Facts ..99 and 00 was end of high school for me....Jay could have easily and probably should have got 99,00 and 01.
 
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It was mid but that was his year. :manny:

No one else in NYC was making moves.


Nas put out Hip Hop Is Dead which outsold Jeezy’s album first week when Jeezy was on radio claiming he’d outsell Nas. He had all of the culture debating the album title and the south publicly in their feelings.

Ghostface also deserves consideration. Fishscale was so successful that Jay asked him to cook up another album to have ready for the 4th quarter.
 

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Nas put out Hip Hop Is Dead which outsold Jeezy’s album first week when Jeezy was on radio claiming he’d outsell Nas. He had all of the culture debating the album title and the south publicly in their feelings.

Ghostface also deserves consideration. Fishscale was so successful that Jay asked him to cook up another album to have ready for the 4th quarter.

Love those albums but Jay sold more and was president of Def Jam to go along with it (correct me if I’m wrong).

I mean just going off of their criteria. Like @Kliq_Souf watch them do some bullshyt like Jim Jones. :laugh:
 
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Love those albums but Jay sold more and was president of Def Jam to go along with it (correct me if I’m wrong).

I mean just going off of their criteria. Like @Kliq_Souf watch them do some bullshyt like Jim Jones. :laugh:


Jay sold more but Kingdom Come is universally seen as a weak album and Jay was forced to course correct with American Gangster. Both Hip Hop Is Dead and Fishscale were held in higher regard during that time period.

Jim Jones as king of anything is laughable
 
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