Math Hoffa cohost says if lyricism was the thing like back in the days Kendrick Lamar wouldn’t be up there like that .

[radio rahiem]

in this one instance, i agree with TT
@Mr. Jack Napier
@ThaBronxBully

 

[Shadow King]

Yet Pac is considered a GOAT during the lyricists' peak decade.

Is more than "lyrical miracle" or nah?

 

[Shadow King]

Designer wasn't celebrated as a lyricist, is a child of the post-ATL takeover and had 1 hot summer before going back to driving Uber.

 

[Monsanto]

Nobody cares about this hater.
Like Talib Kweli said, as far as lyricists all time, its Nas and then Kendrick
As far as discography doe, It's kendrick and then Kendrick

Is Talib dumb?

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

What is considered back in the days?

Something something 38 revolve like the sun around the earth

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Who are the WC rappers that are genuinely nice and can rap at elite levels that the WC pushed and supported? The super nice WC guys like Ras Kass or half of Hiero were relegated to the underground in favor of gangsta rappers. Hammer didn't help, either. From the outside, to the uninformed, the WC is a bunch of okay to wack rapping knuckleheads.

Ab soul
Vince
Tyler
Earl
Xzibit
Brotha Lynch
Tray Deee
Crooked I
Navy Blue
Paris
Game

And don't me get on all the wack ass NY nikkas we can name

 

[BK The Great]

Looks like they caught wind of his trash music

 

[TheJet]

Looks like they caught wind of his trash music

Arithmetic Huff is a clown

 

[Shadow King]

The same nikkas who use this talking point can never quote a west coast lyricist that isn't named Kurupt or Cube

And usually be stanning basic punchline rappers who rap on the same beat every single album with the same flow

If you can't name at least 10 better west coast lyricists than Kendrick your opinion is invalid as you weren't looking for it like that anyway.

Kendrick isn't top 10 in the West lyrically but nikkas like the one in the video don't know who is to begin with, he's not saying that shyt in good faith at all lol.

Name them.

Kendrick isn't some elite level lyricist that's for sure.

But I still don't understand how a fukking Math Hoffa has a podcast with so many viewers. I know he's a MAGA c00n, I guess some of his audience comes from there? Other than that he's legitimately one of the worst battle rappers from his era.

The MAGA shìt is recent.

Math has had a LOT of good interviews just off the strength of the guests he's had and how they've been able to somewhat shed light on the mystique of the 90s/early 00s.

 

[GreenGhxst]

You aren't necessarily a lyricist if your rhyme scheme is repetitive

You just can rhyme last words

It does not sound interesting, it does not catch my attention

I can never listen to a nikka named after Arithmetic, I know his flow is predicatable

I know he thinks his nursery rhyme raps are compelling

 

[HARLEM AL]

Its East Coast hating on West Coast. Period.


Them nikkas need to stop reminiscing about the 90’s and stand behind one or two or three of their OWN highly skilled artists and maybe NY can be the bastion of Hip Hop legitimacy it once was.

Skyzoo JUST dropped an incredible album. I’m listening to it right now. I wonder if Math or Funk Flex or whoever will champion him as the epitome of lyricism.

I don’t think you nikkas watched the video. nikka explained it.

 

[HoldThisL]

Something something 38 revolve like the sun around the earth

The thing is Kendrick would have thrived back then regardless of what anyone says because he is a great songwriter.
Some of the top rap songs from back then were not heavy with punchlines and metaphors.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

The thing is Kendrick would have thrived back then regardless of what anyone says because he is a great songwriter.
Some of the top rap songs from back then were not heavy with punchlines and metaphors.

Exactly. Plus, kendrick would've just leaned into that more to keep competitive

Cause it's crazy how all the dudes who were actually them nikkas back then give kendrick while the weed carriers put out backhanded compliments

 

[TripleAgent]

Ab soul
Vince
Tyler
Earl
Xzibit
Brotha Lynch
Tray Deee
Crooked I
Navy Blue
Paris
Game

And don't me get on all the wack ass NY nikkas we can name

Out of these I'll give you

Tyler (cacs/Eminem shock rap crowd)
Xzibit (Dre affiliation, went gangsta, got problems for it)
Game (Iovine, Dre and 50 made him)

You're proving my point...Earl and Crooked I should be household names

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Being able to paint pictures and show depth makes you a great lyricist .

Maybe even more so than a “ I bomb atomically ..” ass verse that sounds great but ultimately isn’t saying shyt .

Idk how you can listen to the second verse from Fear and say he’s not a lyricist..

Idk how you can listen to PAC and say he’s not a lyricist

This is a slippery slope because there are classic ass albums that do not feature great displays of wordplay from east coast legends