Math and reading scores for American 13-year-olds plunge to lowest levels in decades

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This is a good thing. There is nothing teachers do that an AI cannot do.

Arguably, even the best teacher only has experience teaching a few hundred kids and remembers a couple college classes, while an AI can aggregate data from tens of millions of kids and tell you which kind of teaching works best for your kid and draws from current research.


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Y'all must've went to shytty schools.

Interactive Teacher who can make learning fun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boring A.I.
 

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Nah, Technology ain't to blame. Reason being there's so many great sources kids can learn from, specifically math & science. For reading, you can always hit up the library
It shares some of the blame.

You have people stepping into the professional world not knowing how to use a contents page. Seeing as some of them are degree educated, it is telling me that it isn't being taught.

As someone who has experience doing things the old fashioned way and with using technology, I can recognise the difficulties that come with relying on technology to process information.

It might be different from some but, based on my observations and experiences, I doubt it.
 

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Y'all must've went to shytty schools.

Interactive Teacher who can make learning fun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boring A.I.
Generative ai is literally millions of fun teachers put together. It's better than a single teacher.


Why have a single blue skittle , when you can taste the entire rainbow with a bag?
 

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This is a good thing. There is nothing teachers do that an AI cannot do.

Arguably, even the best teacher only has experience teaching a few hundred kids and remembers a couple college classes, while an AI can aggregate data from tens of millions of kids and tell you which kind of teaching works best for your kid and draws from current research.
You have some of the worst takes on this forum.

Children are human beings not machines. Unless you want to create sociopaths who cannot communicate, what you're suggesting is awful. What we need is more teachers to ensure students don't get left behind.

I do think AI and standard exams should be considered when it comes to University though. By 18, you should have a strong enough foundation and the skills to carry out your own research. The way it is set up, you're not going to know what you need to know just by attending classes so I've always felt the tuition fee was a money grab.
 

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i had a big rant, but fukk it. It’s what this nation deserves for allowing idiots to deflect from the fight for our right to a quality FAPE to blaming parents.
:mjlol:Fukking idiots.
Well, hol’ up. I do believe parents play some role in this. But I also agree the system is rigged just by its nature of being largely funded by property taxes and having limited federal oversight.

I love your takes on the topic btw, which is why I tagged you. Not sure if you work in education or what but you always drop gems whenever this discussion crops up :hubie: .
 

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A lot of deconstruction of society norms, not enough construction of new and feasible society norms. :coffee:

Old systems existed for a reason, if new systems subvert those without simultaneously contributing to a better system (hitting all the points the old systems did but at a higher level) then subversion becomes decay, and decay is just a path to ensuring old systems return with a vengeance.

The big lesson is: chaos ensues when you actually believe yourself to be better than your predecessors without understanding why they made the choices they made in the first place.

It is a fact of life.
 

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It’s insane we have folks blaming technology, schools, and teachers when it falls solely on the parents. They simply don’t care about their child’s education.
 

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Well, hol’ up. I do believe parents play some role in this. But I also agree the system is rigged just by its nature of being largely funded by property taxes and having limited federal oversight.

I love your takes on the topic btw, which is why I tagged you. Not sure if you work in education or what but you always drop gems whenever this discussion crops up :hubie: .
I totally think that parents play a role in it. I even have studies that show how much parents are involved in their kids education. But they cannot supplant a good appropriate public education system. They aren’t literacy and math specialists. I also think the way the conversation gets deflected to them is by design. Conservatives have been pushing privatization of education because our government doesn’t want to invest in quality instruction for the populace. Having a well-educated populace does NOT mesh well with the need for a permanent underclass in capitalism. It took me a long time to make that connection and when I did, I got very sick of this conversation. It disgusts me how we’ve been indoctrinated to shift blame to parents for a system they already pay into as tax payers. We don’t do this for anything else. If you pay, you expect quality service. If I pay to get my nails done, I expect them to be done. We pay into education, but are told we shouldn’t expect results and if we don’t get results, we should do more? It’s a bait and switch. We shouldn’t even be talking about families, but about the science of learning and reading. About how testing culture actively makes students HATE learning and reading. How we’ve taken authentic learning experiences out of school but still wanna bytch about student behavior.

The question we need to ask is: what curriculum is being taught to your children when they are away from you for 90% of the day, 5 days a week, 180 days a year?

And if you as a parent is going to have to homeschool your child, then give those parents the money they would have paid into the system.

But also know the atrophy of our public education system in America is having horrible effects on the general population, and it’s not the parents that can fix this- at least not in the ways idiots have been pushing.

The real rub is that parents need to be striking with the teachers. Suing our U.S. government for violation of FAPE and Brown vs. Board of Education and burning all this shyt down.

They got the parents by the balls tho. You live in an economy that requires nearly four incomes to survive and can’t even purchase a home in a better area with better schools. Much less afford tutors you shouldn’t even need in the first place if the instruction wasn’t garbage. And then these dummies allowed conservatives to GUT our education system, defund evidence based programs correlated with better outcomes for students, and somehow convinced these stupid a$$holes to shift blame to themselves.:russ:

It’s the biggest joke of the 21st century and the kids are the punchline. Btw, the right to public education was something people were literally DYING for in other countries and previous generations. Not the right for big mama and factory worker daddy to try and muddle through teaching equation of a line, while still paying taxes for services you never receive.

But hey! I’m just gonna sit back and watch it all play out. The state of public education is the number one predictor of a nation’s GDP, quality of life, and the state of the nation.

Parents can help mold a learning culture, but they can only do so much.
 

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every single public school system should've held students back a year, they also should've done more to open schools, teachers unions bullied their way into extended closures. we deemed fast food workers essential and needing to be at work, but educators weren't?
That would have been best. Basically we lost the classes of 2022-24, and are focusing on 2025 as being the ones to get back on track.

I think we need to incentivize high academic performances for parents, teachers, and schools. Tax breaks, something to get parents and teachers more invested into the education of students and not just doing the bare minimum.
 

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i had a big rant, but fukk it. It’s what this nation deserves for allowing idiots to deflect from the fight for our right to a quality FAPE to blaming parents.
:mjlol:Fukking idiots.
Pop off brehette, the streets need that. I want to rant about how they are warehousing our children and how the low scores usually go hand in hand with food desert neighborhoods. We used to take pride in our local black high schools and colleges and neighborhoods but we are finally seeing the aftereffects of black suburban flight.
 
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