If you've been keeping up with the news, you'll know by now Martin Scorsese isn't the biggest fan of Marvel movies — in fact,
he's not really sure they're even movies at all. Now, Robert De Niro has entered the fray, seemingly slamming the visual effects in Marvel movies as looking too "cartoony." The frequent Scorsese collaborator was helping promoted the filmmaker's
The Irishman at the BFI London Film Festival over the weekend when he made the comments.
“The technological stuff can only go so far," De Niro said (via
ScreenDaily). "It’s not going to change other things. If it does to such a point it becomes something that is not what a person is, what a human is. It can be another type of entertainment, like comic strip things, Marvel. The comic book character-type things, cartoony stuff.”
According to the report, De Niro was responding to an audience question about the de-aging
VFX used in
The Irishman — a method Marvel Studios has increasingly used as it pushes further into nonlinear storytelling. There's the case of Samuel L. Jackson's Nick Fury in
Captain Marvel, Michael Douglas' Hank Pym in
Ant-Man, and Stan Lee's
Avengers: Endgame cameo, just to name a few.
Trent Claus is the visual effects supervisor with Lola VFX, the go-to vendor Marvel uses for all of its de-aging needs. When we spoke with him earlier this year, the VFX guru said the
act of de-aging an actor is an art form.
"It's an art form," Claus said. "There's no good procedural way to do what we do. The work that we do, we don't create a CG replication of the actor. We use the actor that's actually there on screen, so we were actually modifying the actor in the performance that was there on set as opposed to re-creating something new. So, we have to treat each and every frame like a painting, where you're working with light and shadow, and form, and composition, and things like that to accomplish the goal."