Martial arts training thread (boxing, karate, whatever)?

[The Real]

Breh....what I wanna know is how exactly you plan on getting off on charges once you use a knife on an unarmed assailant and try to claim self defense. I mean seriously....think about what you're saying. The judge would flat out throw the book at you first off, secondly, is Cali even a "stand your ground" state?, and third, earlier you mentioned something about "using your knife and no one finding out....yeah, there's this thing law enforcement uses called FORENSICS. You also gotta consider the fact that in most knife attacks, the person HOLDING THE KNIFE usually ends up wounding THEMSELVES in the process. Good luck getting off if they find your blood on the scene. I dunno if you've ever stabbed someone or something with a knife before, but it's not as easy as it looks on TV and movies....especially in a struggle. Johnny Cochran's dead, you aren't OJ, and you prolly couldn't afford Jose Baez either.

Exactly. Mowg is trying to make it seem like he's on some shadow assassin shyt.

 

[Crakface]

Breh....what I wanna know is how exactly you plan on getting off on charges once you use a knife on an unarmed assailant and try to claim self defense. I mean seriously....think about what you're saying. The judge would flat out throw the book at you first off, secondly, is Cali even a "stand your ground" state?, and third, earlier you mentioned something about "using your knife and no one finding out....yeah, there's this thing law enforcement uses called FORENSICS. You also gotta consider the fact that in most knife attacks, the person HOLDING THE KNIFE usually ends up wounding THEMSELVES in the process. Good luck getting off if they find your blood on the scene. I dunno if you've ever stabbed someone or something with a knife before, but it's not as easy as it looks on TV and movies....especially in a struggle. Johnny Cochran's dead, you aren't OJ, and you prolly couldn't afford Jose Baez either.

Oj was a maniac who killed his woman in a jealous rage. Im talking self defense situations not premeditated murder. Lets stay in a realm where we are talking self preservation not homocidal urges.


If the event happened in front of a crowd and one had no choice it would have been a situation that warranted self defense. Like being attacked by someone with an object in their hand. A situation where begging someone to stop fighting, saying "i dont want it" but they pursue the situation. Rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6. If you think about the law when someone you dont know is assaulting you then you may be putting your life in danger. If you think Wataaaaaaaaaaaaaa'ing your way out of a situation where you may die or be crippled is a good move, more power to you. You should research the laws in your state for self defense and study them like the back of your hand because you never know when you may have to keep this knowledge handy.


Despite all of this legal crap. You need to know how to use a blade and where to use it to end an engagement, immediately because if you meet someone who is using one and they have used it before, they arent going to be "fighting" you they are going to be trying to kill you.

 

[Crakface]

Exactly. Mowg is trying to make it seem like he's on some shadow assassin shyt.

It seems like you guys feel a hole in your defenses so you make up all these excuses as to why you are not prepared to handle a blade. It isnt that serious. Lets just discuss the topic instead of creating what if this what if that. If you ever have to use a knife, god forbid, youd want to know what you were doing, RIGHT!?

 

[Another Man]

Oj was a maniac who killed his woman in a jealous rage. Im talking self defense situations not premeditated murder. Lets stay in a realm where we are talking self preservation not homocidal urges.


If the event happened in front of a crowd and one had no choice it would have been a situation that warranted self defense. Like being attacked by someone with an object in their hand. A situation where begging someone to stop fighting, saying "i dont want it" but they pursue the situation. Rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6. If you think about the law when someone you dont know is assaulting you then you may be putting your life in danger. If you think Wataaaaaaaaaaaaaa'ing your way out of a situation where you may die or be crippled is a good move, more power to you. You should research the laws in your state for self defense and study them like the back of your hand because you never know when you may have to keep this knowledge handy.


Despite all of this legal crap. You need to know how to use a blade and where to use it to end an engagement, immediately because if you meet someone who is using one and they have used it before, they arent going to be "fighting" you they are going to be trying to kill you.

I was being facetious with the whole OJ thing as far as legal defense.

Anyways....you're in here trying to throw in all of these what ifs that deviate from the scenarios you previously described. First you said to use a knife in a situation where no one would know what actually went down(like a dark alley), now you're throwing in "if you were in front of a crowd". I dunno about your defense laws, but I know in my states defense laws, and any other state that doesn't have the "stand your ground" statute, the law would rather you make an exit than engage a threat and fight. The only time self defense really applies is when you're cornered, or the threat keeps pursuing. Now even when cornered or being pursued, they state that you are to use enough force to deter or demobilize the threat long enough to then make an exit afterwards. Now if this person were to say...have a weapon themselves, I could see you getting off on self defense using a knife, because you can do such things in the most extreme of cases....but not if the threat is unarmed. That's what they'd call "excessive force". If you're skilled and combat trained through live sparring/rolling and such, then you should be able to at least fend off against any unarmed attacker long enough to make your exit. You'd have to be able to prove that you had to resort to such measures due to the threat putting your life in eminent danger without a reasonable doubt. Moral of the story is, you use a knife on an unarmed man, there's gonna be a shytload of doubt.

 

[Crakface]

I was being facetious with the whole OJ thing as far as legal defense.

Anyways....you're in here trying to throw in all of these what ifs that deviate from the scenarios you previously described. First you said to use a knife in a situation where no one would know what actually went down(like a dark alley), now you're throwing in "if you were in front of a crowd". I dunno about your defense laws, but I know in my states defense laws, and any other state that doesn't have the "stand your ground" statute, the law would rather you make an exit than engage a threat and fight. The only time self defense really applies is when you're cornered, or the threat keeps pursuing. Now even when cornered or being pursued, they state that you are to use enough force to deter or demobilize the threat long enough to then make an exit afterwards. Now if this person were to say...have a weapon themselves, I could see you getting off on self defense using a knife, because you can do such things in the most extreme of cases....but not if the threat is unarmed. That's what they'd call "excessive force". If you're skilled and combat trained through live sparring/rolling and such, then you should be able to at least fend off against any unarmed attacker long enough to make your exit. You'd have to be able to prove that you had to resort to such measures due to the threat putting your life in eminent danger without a reasonable doubt. Moral of the story is, you use a knife on an unarmed man, there's gonna be a shytload of doubt.

Well we could have been just talking about using knives if you didnt bring all this legal rubbish into it. If you punch someone in the face so hard they go into a coma, what do you think is going to happen to you. I guess i should just hit people at 70 percent power instead of with all my might. Please stop. I know the self defense laws in my state and if you say you dont want to fight, plead with that man to stop if hes trying to attack you, tell them you arent fighting, and they continue, you can stab them.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

used my new feiyue's today. I love them. They have the perfect amount of ankle give. I think using these will actually force me to develop my balance a bit.

 

[Another Man]

Well we could have been just talking about using knives if you didnt bring all this legal rubbish into it. If you punch someone in the face so hard they go into a coma, what do you think is going to happen to you. I guess i should just hit people at 70 percent power instead of with all my might. Please stop. I know the self defense laws in my state and if you say you dont want to fight, plead with that man to stop if hes trying to attack you, tell them you arent fighting, and they continue, you can stab them.

Poor example. I'm pretty sure the court would take certain things into consideration...like say, if you hit dude once and dropped him, and he was seriously hurt because of that one blow, then you'd get off cuz it was his fault. Now if the coma were to be a result of you continuing to attack the person even though it was proven that you clearly could have made an exit or well after the threat was immobilized(excessive force), then yeah, you're catching a case. If your hands are right, I'm sure a sharp blow to the face on anyone will buy you enough time to get the fukk outta there.

 

[Crakface]

Poor example. I'm pretty sure the court would take certain things into consideration...like say, if you hit dude once and dropped him, and he was seriously hurt because of that one blow, then you'd get off cuz it was his fault. Now if the coma were to be a result of you continuing to attack the person even though it was proven that you clearly could have made an exit or well after the threat was immobilized(excessive force), then yeah, you're catching a case. If your hands are right, I'm sure a sharp blow to the face on anyone will buy you enough time to get the fukk outta there.

If you are black you are not getting off for punching someone once and putting them in a coma. I brought up that example because i know someone that happened to. When stabbing its about how many times you stab after being accosted by someone who you have declared you do not want to fight. If you poke once and they dont want it anymore, you are getting off.

 

[Mr. Pink]

I think a knife is a good idea. Even the mere sight of one of these these is enough to deter anyone who isn't blasted out of his mind on crystal meth.

 

[Crakface]

I think a knife is a good idea. Even the mere sight of one of these these is enough to deter anyone who isn't blasted out of his mind on crystal meth.

awwwwwww shoot. Do i know you from somewhere?

 

[Crakface]

>Martial arts and all that hong kong fui jitsu crap. Try punching, kicking or rolling around on the ground with a guy whos holding one of these. There are levels and tiers to combat. You have to be prepped for every tier.

 

[Another Man]

How many aliases do you have

 

[Crakface]

This guy thought he was tough fighting someone who had a knife. He lost. For you guys who like studying all that fake pressure point nonsense, maybe you should take time to realize that putting a knife in those points will serve you a lot better then one of your bony knuckles.

Someone who wants to hurt you close quarters, with a knife is going to hurt you. You can have a gun in your back pocket but if you are 1 second away from that man, you wont have time to pull your little gun and do much of anything. Obviously there are scenarios where the gun guy has the distinct advantage but there are many where he does not, in particular in close quarters. There was a video on worldstarhiphop not to long ago where a man with a butcher knife killed 2 cops and injured 1 with a butcher knife while they had him surrounded by ak47s. He got the drop on one, chased another down and injured a 3rd. Guns are not everything, in combat.

 

[Mr. Pink]

How many aliases do you have

Now that's just mean

 

[Another Man]

.........aaaaaaaaand this thread is ruined.