Man of Steel (2013)

[Master Teacher]

whut excuses? everything i said happened. plus, jor-el and zod were FRIENDS. they both objected the council. and zod NEVER said he was doing to be selective, that was jor-el's assumption after zod asked to join him. jor-el didn't approve of his coup.

also, again... the question was brought up about the entire planet leaving. jor-el told the council it was impossible, because there was no time. hell, immediately after zod and his people were shipped out to the phantom zone, the planet blew up! so there was LITERALLY no time to evacuate the planet! DISMISSING THE ENTIRE FACT THE KRYPTONIAN GOVERNMENT DID NOT BELIEVE JOR-EL OR ZOD ABOUT THE PLANET IMPLODING. this was why zod set the coup, this was why jor-el stole the codex. both were going for the SAME OBJECTIVE which was the preservation of krypton.

If they had no way off the planet like you said, then what was the point of the coup, if everything went Zod way he would have died along with everybody else.

this shyt was dumb. Should have just followed the standard origin for the first one, briefly showed the ship taking off and crashing.

They never explain how clark found the ship, or how the hell Lois new it was there.

World machine was just dump, because if they had technology like that they could have just used to terraform a planet near krypton.

These nikkaz got a fleet of ships, but nobody tried to fly off the planet while it was blowing up. Even in 2012 people tried to escape and they didn't even have spaceships.

This shyt was ass man. Ship full of supermen gets taking out by Lois Lane and some regular joes. Disgusting. If Lois had time to fall out then they had to time with their super speed to escape. shyt was just dumb.

Zod was not some conflicted anti-hero. He was a typical bad guy elitest, believed only kryptons he deemed worthy should live on. He was a bad guy from the start. Not like harvey Dent who had to have something terrible happen to him in order to turn evil.

 

[twan83]

All is not lost for the krypton race. If faora can some how get out of the phantom zone, she can be impregnated

i be the first dude in line trying to get her impregnated

had me in the movie the whole time like this

especially when she was murking them soldiers dbz style

 

[gluvnast]

If they had no way off the planet like you said, then what was the point of the coup, if everything went Zod way he would have died along with everybody else.

this shyt was dumb. Should have just followed the standard origin for the first one, briefly showed the ship taking off and crashing.

They never explain how clark found the ship, or how the hell Lois new it was there.

World machine was just dump, because if they had technology like that they could have just used to terraform a planet near krypton.

These nikkaz got a fleet of ships, but nobody tried to fly off the planet while it was blowing up. Even in 2012 people tried to escape and they didn't even have spaceships.

This shyt was ass man. Ship full of supermen gets taking out by Lois Lane and some regular joes. Disgusting. If Lois had time to fall out then they had to time with their super speed to escape. shyt was just dumb.

Zod was not some conflicted anti-hero. He was a typical bad guy elitest, believed only kryptons he deemed worthy should live on. He was a bad guy from the start. Not like harvey Dent who had to have something terrible happen to him in order to turn evil.

it wasn't NO WAY.. it was about no REALISTIC TIME to evacuate an entire WORLD population in like one hour from implosion. did you NOT get how QUICK that planet imploded. it was immediately after zod was shipped out. jor-el repeatedly stated it was TOO LATE. you act like years later have passed or something.

and for the LAST TIME, the council DID NOT BELIEVE the planet was about to implode. they didn't listen to jor-el. they damn sure wasn't hearing zod. it was THEIR fault for it to happen anyway and did not take heed to the warning!

ZOD main objective was to PROTECT the existence of the kryptonian race, the people who stood in their way at that time was the COUNCIL, because zod agreed with jor-el about the planet was in danger. THIS was why he ASKED jor-el to JOIN him to find a way. jor-el didn't want to join him just because of them having different ideologies of how kryptonians should live. ZOD was actually more optimistic in believing they could SAVE their planet with jor-el's help. and jor-el believed it was a lost cause altogether.

i mean, you can AGREE he was elitist. he saw humans as nothing, and jor-el believed his obsession with preserving krypton had changed him and feared he would of been selective in who should deserved to live or didn't. but it was less than evil than whut superman done which was choosing a race that he's not bloodily related to over his OWN race and exterminating whut was LEFT of that race altogether.

 

[Insensitive]

your trying to hard, Zod was black and white, dude was evil.
Movie is plain bad.
If they got all these ships why didn't they just fly off the planet instead of stay there while it blowed up.

If they got a machine than terraform a planet into Kyrpton, why didn't they just use it on any other planet to change its atmosphere to something that can be inhabited. Or better yet, why not just use it to fix krypton.

this shyt was worst than independence day and Superman Returns

Simple a lot of cultures do things detrimental to their progress in an attempt
to keep the status quo.
Just look at previous empires on this very planet
hell look at America.

stop making excuses. Zod killing people, and deciding which blood lines should live on some white supremacist shyt on krypton, and you talking about he not evil. Now he wants to exterminate an entire planet on which they can become gods on just leaving it has it is. The plot is moronic.

The planet krypton is literally fallen apart, and nobody is even attempt to leave yet these nikkaz got ships that make the enterprise look like Apollo 13

He isn't making excuses you're conveniently overlooking pretty blatant plot points in an attempt
to keep your argument going.

Zod wasn't just an all out evil dude.
He did what he did to help his people, and anyone who stood
in his path was to be eliminated.
That was his sole purpose, that was what he was bred for.

I spent my whole life honing my skills and mastering my body.
Where did you train ? ON A FARM ?

The reason he even staged the coup in the first place
was because the government of krypton was fvcking incompetent.

Jor-El said they had a couple weeks left @gluvnast
The planet imploded a few weeks after Zod had been imprisoned
and Kal-El was sent to earth.

 

[Master Teacher]

it wasn't NO WAY.. it was about no REALISTIC TIME to evacuate an entire WORLD population in like one hour from implosion. did you NOT get how QUICK that planet imploded. it was immediately after zod was shipped out. jor-el repeatedly stated it was TOO LATE. you act like years later have passed or something.

and for the LAST TIME, the council DID NOT BELIEVE the planet was about to implode. they didn't listen to jor-el. they damn sure wasn't hearing zod. it was THEIR fault for it to happen anyway and did not take heed to the warning!

ZOD main objective was to PROTECT the existence of the kryptonian race, the people who stood in their way at that time was the COUNCIL, because zod agreed with jor-el about the planet was in danger. THIS was why he ASKED jor-el to JOIN him to find a way. jor-el didn't want to join him just because of them having different ideologies of how kryptonians should live. ZOD was actually more optimistic in believing they could SAVE their planet with jor-el's help. and jor-el believed it was a lost cause altogether.

i mean, you can AGREE he was elitist. he saw humans as nothing, and jor-el believed his obsession with preserving krypton had changed him and feared he would of been selective in how should deserved to live or didn't. but it was less than evil than whut superman done which was choosing a race that he's not bloodily related to over his OWN race and exterminating whut was LEFT of that race altogether.

He was elitist with the krypton blood lines. Which is why Jor El didn't want to get him the codex. How is that not evil he didn't care about all the kryptonians.

His wife stood there and watched as the planet exploding, there was time to bored ships. The kryptons are obviously capable of intersteller travel, people would have died but they could have escaped with the type of ships they had.

Also if they have the ability to terraform other planets, then they could turn any planet into kyrpton. The shyt was a cluster fukk.

 

[Insensitive]

He was elitist with the krypton blood lines. Which is why Jor El didn't want to get him the codex. How is that not evil he didn't care about all the kryptonians.

His wife stood there and watched as the planet exploding, there was time to bored ships. The kryptons are obviously capable of intersteller travel, people would have died but they could have escaped with the type of ships they had.

Also if they have the ability to terraform other planets, then they could turn any planet into kyrpton. The shyt was a cluster fukk.

I'm certain Jor-El one of the leading scientists
on the planet had an idea on whether or not they could
evacuate billions of people in a reasonable amount of time.


Also don't forget that by the time their civilization was falling apart
they'd already abandoned colonizing other planets.
They'd still have to actually terraform one before their
dying planet completely destroyed itself, which they couldn't because they'd
run out of time by then

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

If they had no way off the planet like you said, then what was the point of the coup, if everything went Zod way he would have died along with everybody else.

this shyt was dumb. Should have just followed the standard origin for the first one, briefly showed the ship taking off and crashing.

They never explain how clark found the ship, or how the hell Lois new it was there.

World machine was just dump, because if they had technology like that they could have just used to terraform a planet near krypton.

These nikkaz got a fleet of ships, but nobody tried to fly off the planet while it was blowing up. Even in 2012 people tried to escape and they didn't even have spaceships.

This shyt was ass man. Ship full of supermen gets taking out by Lois Lane and some regular joes. Disgusting. If Lois had time to fall out then they had to time with their super speed to escape. shyt was just dumb.

Zod was not some conflicted anti-hero. He was a typical bad guy elitest, believed only kryptons he deemed worthy should live on. He was a bad guy from the start. Not like harvey Dent who had to have something terrible happen to him in order to turn evil.

Actually, Zod wasn't always evil. Crowe even said he would honor than man he "once was". They gave not back story with Zod so the first time you see him, he blows opens the door and kills people. Of course you gonna view him as the bad guy from jump. A coup was in order given the circumstances... Better yet, if the Planet is about to be destroyed all reason and logic goes out the window.


They way they wrote the story it seems as though Zod his peoples, Russell Crowe and his wife were the ONLY people that knew the planet was about to be destroyed. Nobody believed it was going to happen which would explain why they were holding trials and sending people to phantom zones and shyt. But my whole thing is how can a species that advanced not know what was about to happen

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm certain Jor-El one of the leading scientists
on the planet had an idea on whether or not they could
evacuate billions of people in a reasonable amount of time.


Also don't forget that by the time their civilization was falling apart
they'd already abandoned colonizing other planets.
They'd still have to actually terraform one before their
dying planet completely destroyed itself, which they couldn't because they'd
run out of time by then

these nikkaz got a fleet of ships, the planet starts to fall apart and they just resign themselves to their fate.
IT'S LAZY shyt WRITING

2012 people put up more of an effort to survive with regular Earth technology.

Jor El could have taking his whole family and one of them big ass ships.

 

[Master Teacher]

Actually, Zod wasn't always evil. Crowe even said he would honor than man he "once was". They gave not back story with Zod so the first time you see him, he blows opens the door and kills people. Of course you gonna view him as the bad guy from jump. A coup was in order given the circumstances... Better yet, if the Planet is about to be destroyed all reason and logic goes out the window.


They way they wrote the story it seems as though Zod his peoples, Russell Crowe and his wife were the ONLY people that knew the planet was about to be destroyed. Nobody believed it was going to happen which would explain why they were holding trials and sending people to phantom zones and shyt. But my whole thing is how can a species that advanced not know what was about to happen

They say he's not evil. But all he does is Evil things. We never see him do anything other than evil the entire. How can you feel sorry for him, when he's done nothing redeemable in the entire movie.

 

[Greenstrings]

Pointing out logical fallacies in a sci-fi movie is like shooting fish in a barrel. They all have tons and they all points towards the fact that these stories are not conceived in a universe where the laws that govern reality are defined to any meaningful degree. That's why so many questionable events in sci-fi movies are explained after the fact in sequels/spinoffs etc.
@Master Teacher You don't realise that you're doing something similar when you presume that there were planets near krypton that could have been terraformed.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

They say he's not evil. But all he does is Evil things. We never see him do anything other than evil the entire. How can you feel sorry for him, when he's done nothing redeemable in the entire movie.

1. He asked Crowe to join him.

2. He welcomed Kal El as a brother, until he turned.

3. He didn't come off as someone wanting to do evil...


At the end of the day I shouldn't have to explained this fukking script. They fukked it up sending nikkas mixed messages. They made Faora too sexy and too likable. They made the military like fukking pests as usual.

Why the fukk would Superman save a nikka falling from a helicopter that was shooting at him He cared about humans so much but he doesn't try to take the fight to a remote location.

 

[Master Teacher]

Pointing out logical fallacies in a sci-fi movie is like shooting fish in a barrel. They all have tons and they all points towards the fact that these stories are not conceived in a universe where the laws that govern reality are defined to any meaningful degree. That's why so many questionable events in sci-fi movies are explained after the fact in sequels/spinoffs etc.
@Master Teacher You don't realise that you're doing something similar when you presume that there were planets near krypton that could have been terraformed.

the logical fallacies is a man flying and throwing people threw buildings.
Or Jor-El using a dinosaur the fly when they have all types of futuristic vehicles on the planet.

Everything else is just terrible writing and plotholes.

There's nothing in the movie indicating the Zod and Jor El were ever friends other then the fact they say their were, even though they hate each other.

this movie was nothing but a visual effects showcase, no type of thought was put into this shyt,

 

[OmegaK2099]

SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY - JUSTICE (Fan film 5 of 5) - YouTube

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Finally got around to watching this, and I was not a fan. I almost fell asleep half way through it

 

[Mowgli]

it wasn't NO WAY.. it was about no REALISTIC TIME to evacuate an entire WORLD population in like one hour from implosion. did you NOT get how QUICK that planet imploded. it was immediately after zod was shipped out. jor-el repeatedly stated it was TOO LATE. you act like years later have passed or something.

and for the LAST TIME, the council DID NOT BELIEVE the planet was about to implode. they didn't listen to jor-el. they damn sure wasn't hearing zod. it was THEIR fault for it to happen anyway and did not take heed to the warning!

ZOD main objective was to PROTECT the existence of the kryptonian race, the people who stood in their way at that time was the COUNCIL, because zod agreed with jor-el about the planet was in danger. THIS was why he ASKED jor-el to JOIN him to find a way. jor-el didn't want to join him just because of them having different ideologies of how kryptonians should live. ZOD was actually more optimistic in believing they could SAVE their planet with jor-el's help. and jor-el believed it was a lost cause altogether.

i mean, you can AGREE he was elitist. he saw humans as nothing, and jor-el believed his obsession with preserving krypton had changed him and feared he would of been selective in who should deserved to live or didn't. but it was less than evil than whut superman done which was choosing a race that he's not bloodily related to over his OWN race and exterminating whut was LEFT of that race altogether.

Superman is a fukkin house nikka and Zod fukked up trying to kill massa.