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They already let Gwen get raped by Osborne so they probably don't care about Ock and Mary Jane.

gwen didn't get raped she gave up the p*ssy to osborne.

But not peter who was her boyfriend in college. :smh:

and this is the girl who he loves more then maryjane. :scusthov:
 
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Stan lee throwing issue 700 in the shredder :birdman:
 

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Marvel and DC should just put out 3 to 4 issue elseworld storylines per book in between their inevitable mega-crossovers. shyt's pointless to build cannon, only to shyt all over it a year or two down the line.
 

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Mary Jane is more important than Gwen and the naive game. There would be a legitimate outrage over it.

depends on the era

older fans love them some gwen stacy.

Our generation and younger people love them some mary jane

Quasada hated maryjane and you see what he allowed to happen to her. She died once and left peter under his run.
 

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Gwen Stacy died a LONG time ago. She's more of a symbol of Osborn getting away with murder and being Spider-Man's arch enemy. Mary Jane is who he's had to sacrifice for and do everything for. Next to Uncle Ben, no character means more to the Spider Man mythos. It's one thing to bring Gwen back from death to use as some off brand accessory to an Norman Osborne storyline but Mary Jane? That's fukking absurd. Now apparently when the Chameleon pretended to be Spider-Man once, she figured it out. But she hasn't done that yet even though Dr. Oct has been having Peter talk out of term and not as himself..especially in #700 . It's beyond belief.
 

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Gwen Stacy died a LONG time ago. She's more of a symbol of Osborn getting away with murder and being Spider-Man's arch enemy. Mary Jane is who he's had to sacrifice for and do everything for. Next to Uncle Ben, no character means more to the Spider Man mythos. It's one thing to bring Gwen back from death to use as some off brand accessory to an Norman Osborne storyline but Mary Jane? That's fukking absurd. Now apparently when the Chameleon pretended to be Spider-Man once, she figured it out. But she hasn't done that yet even though Dr. Oct has been having Peter talk out of term and not as himself..especially in #700 . It's beyond belief.

considering the life she has lived she should know something but hey it all depends on the writer. :manny:
 

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To be fair, the Brand New Day stuff hasn't been bad, with some of it actually being quite good. It's when they try to throw the OMD changes in your face ("One Moment in Time") that it got really bad.

Actually, considering that I really don't have a problem with the concept of Ock being Spider-Man for a bit, the reasoning for it is a case study in why I stopped reading comics: COMICS: Dan Slott And Stephen Wacker Discuss The End Of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #700



I mean, can any of these writers write anything beyond themselves and 70s-80s fanboyism? Disgusting. And Slott's actually a pretty good writer.

Plus, you know how Marvel is: They reboot things every year. This, at the most, won't last beyond mid-2014.

It ain't that they're gonna reboot it for me. It's how they had dude go out. They threw as much disrespect on the character as they possibly could. They even released the comic a couple of days before Stan Lee's birthday. This was a calculated cuss towards the entire character.

Killing off Peter and replacing him/have someone take up the mantle like in the ultimates is cool. Miles for all we know is a good kid and is learning the craft etc, but replacing him with one of his archenemies then trying to say Doc Ock "gets it" he understands Spidey is an icon etc is stupid because he spent his natural life trying to kill Spiderman. Doc Ock chose to be a villain from jump he wasn't forced he was an a$$hole and decided to become a villain. That shyt ain't supposed to change because he's in Parker's body. It's dumb writing. I'm cool on that. I'm kinda done with Spiderman now.
 

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It ain't that they're gonna reboot it for me. It's how they had dude go out. They threw as much disrespect on the character as they possibly could. They even released the comic a couple of days before Stan Lee's birthday. This was a calculated cuss towards the entire character.

Killing off Peter and replacing him/have someone take up the mantle like in the ultimates is cool. Miles for all we know is a good kid and is learning the craft etc, but replacing him with one of his archenemies then trying to say Doc Ock "gets it" he understands Spidey is an icon etc is stupid because he spent his natural life trying to kill Spiderman. Doc Ock chose to be a villain from jump he wasn't forced he was an a$$hole and decided to become a villain. That shyt ain't supposed to change because he's in Parker's body. It's dumb writing. I'm cool on that. I'm kinda done with Spiderman now.

AND on the 50th anniversary of Spider-Man's creation.

As cool as I am with the concept of Ock being Spidey, the execution is, like you said, ALSO an example of half-assed writing and a reason why I stopped reading regularly. Even though they used what amounted to a deus ex machina to try to explain it (I don't remember if it was explained in the thread, but before flatlining, Peter used an Octobot to have Ock, in Peter's body, experience his worst and most painful memories, in order to convince him to reform), the problem comes when you realize that Ock really isn't going to change like that.

Don't get me wrong, I was the same as you when OMD happened, but eventually the stories sucked me back into at least keeping up with it. With a concept I can at least find some interest in? I'm not jumping from my apartment to the nearest comic store or anything, but I'll at least follow it to see how its handled.

I ALSO want to see how contrived the retcon is going to be, since Peter is supposed to be, you know, dead and all (He probably transferred his brainwave patterns to an Octobot right before Ock's body died and is just biding his time or some such only semi-possible, if that, technobabble).
 

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Gwen Stacy died a LONG time ago. She's more of a symbol of Osborn getting away with murder and being Spider-Man's arch enemy. Mary Jane is who he's had to sacrifice for and do everything for. Next to Uncle Ben, no character means more to the Spider Man mythos. It's one thing to bring Gwen back from death to use as some off brand accessory to an Norman Osborne storyline but Mary Jane? That's fukking absurd. Now apparently when the Chameleon pretended to be Spider-Man once, she figured it out. But she hasn't done that yet even though Dr. Oct has been having Peter talk out of term and not as himself..especially in #700 . It's beyond belief.

:rudy:

Stop acting like most comic writers do research anymore.
 

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:wtf: The fukk am I reading in here? For those of us who are out the loop, can we please get a brief summary on exactly what happened to Peter?
 

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:wtf: The fukk am I reading in here? For those of us who are out the loop, can we please get a brief summary on exactly what happened to Peter?

Doc Ock is in Peter's body with Peter's memories....

Pete just died in Doc Ock's frail and broken body.

So really you have Pete with the arrogant swagger of Doc Ock swinging around.

No, he's not villain cause he got the same sense of responsibility and the memories to go with it.

He's just gonna be...

well, he's basically gonna be Peter with the symbiote swag from Spiderman 3. lol
 

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Doc Ock is in Peter's body with Peter's memories....

Pete just died in Doc Ock's frail and broken body.

So really you have Pete with the arrogant swagger of Doc Ock swinging around.

No, he's not villain cause he got the same sense of responsibility and the memories to go with it.

He's just gonna be...

well, he's basically gonna be Peter with the symbiote swag from Spiderman 3. lol

:mindblown: What the hell is going on at Marvel? This shyt sounds stupid as hell
 
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