Malcolm X: How much do know about him?

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malcolm calling white ppl crackas and devils keeps him unranked in the books. white ppl hold mlk high because he had that pacifist approach.
mlk day (jan 20) is celebrated by negroes who've forgotten history. if there was any day to celebrate about mlk jr it's apr 4th (at age 39). the day he was shot. that's the day negroes must not forget. sh1t ain't pretty with these crackas.


as for my mans x, he is probably the goat. up there with muhammad ali in talkin truth without holding back. islam at the time was great refuge for them.


it's too bad the fbi infiltrated the nation of islam and played them against each other.
 

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Will never understand why people shyt on a dude as influential as MLK was in order to prop up Malcolm. Why not appreciate both in their own right? Always has to be dudes pushing lies that MLK was some sort of "safe negro".
 

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One thing though, a lot of you guys kind of disregard post-NOI Malcolm. The man's words and feelings are his own and I think we have to respect that as well. The videos and writings are there, from the source. He ended up walking back on a lot of his stances, especially towards MLK.
Yep Malcolm regretted how harsh he was on MLK's stance in his last years. In fact the Marable book mentions he wanted to collaborate with him after forming his new org post NOI.
 
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dang, you guys are mad Malcolm was w the NOI at one point?!? For what.. regardless of what you think NOI was putting in work.
NTM, aren't we familiar that X was barely a civilized human being prior to the NOI struggle saving him?

Malcolm X created from his OWN brain some of the most militant aspects of the noi.. actually the noi was trying to calm him down.
And a few of his views on religion did change post NOI - but overall his political, race, economic views aren't that different before or after... (plus he was still a black Muslim!) shyt that's why even today there are young black men who hold those same views. It's a logical viewpoint to have.
 

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I learned about Malcolm in 7th grade when my class was assigned to read a biography of him. I think it wasn't until I was in my college years that I fully read his autobiography, then recently, I read Manning Marable's great book about Malcom's life, evolution and politics. What pisses me off about his assassination is that he never lived to see his vision lived out with the establishment of the black panther party in the late 60's. I often wonder if the black power movement would have been stronger if he was around. I predict that he would've made an alliance with the BPP and potentially be a greater social and political force within the black community.

He was on his way to linking the Diaspora with the continent. The work of those before him was about to be realized so naturally he had to be killed. If Black Nationalism and Pan Africanism had linked rings like the Wonder Twins shyt would've been real. :whoo:
 

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Honestly, I know everything about him from reading the Alex Haley's autobiography on him in

junior highschool. And, believe it or not our elementary school showed us Spike's movie version

of him. Needless to say, seeing his assassination at the Audubon Ballroom ripped our young hearts out:to:


that scene is 1 of only 3 movie scenes that have made me cry. The other 2 is when bambi mother dies and when simba father dies in lion king
 

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He was on his way to linking the Diaspora with the continent. The work of those before him was about to be realized so naturally he had to be killed. If Black Nationalism and Pan Africanism had linked rings like the Wonder Twins shyt would've been real. :whoo:

He was killed by the NOI though. There are interviews with the man while he was alive where out of his own mouth he said the NOI was gunning for him.




The man's own words^^^^
 

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Will never understand why people shyt on a dude as influential as MLK was in order to prop up Malcolm. Why not appreciate both in their own right? Always has to be dudes pushing lies that MLK was some sort of "safe negro".
i respect mlk. you niccas need to stop being slaves to white ppl's rhyme books. generally speaking... they just laugh at the ones who eat up what they throw at them.
 

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He was killed by the NOI though. There are interviews with the man while he was alive where out of his own mouth he said the NOI was gunning for him.




The man's own words^^^^


I'm talking bout Malcolm post NOI he was more dangerous than ever. If the OAAU had taken off under him shyt woulda got extremely real. NOI killed him, but not without a lot of help from the feds.
 

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I learned about Malcolm X watching bits and pieces of Spike Lee's movie about his life. This sparked my interest, which led me to reading his autobiography years ago. I learned so much about him that I watched the movie several times and truly appreciated it. It missed some things and over-exaggerated others, but I'm grateful that it offers a snapshot into a great man's life that many would not know about it not for a movie format since he is not highlighted in school and/or larger society in general.

I feel there is so much to this man and his story that not only black people but the world was robbed of due to his murder. He was doing something that could have single-handedly revolutionized the struggle of the black diaspora...internationalizing the issue and coordinating black people in Africa, Europe and the Americas for a united front to the world. This is why he was killed...not because of some "chickens coming home to roost" statement in a speech. Black men like that aren't killed for peanuts...they're killed because they are doing and/or planning something that could potentially ruin an entire system and way of life.

His autobiography is my favorite book and I re-read it every once in awhile just to refresh. And I get something new from it each time. Like the epilogue to the book and movie stated, "he was our manhood."

Peace
 

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I'm talking bout Malcolm post NOI he was more dangerous than ever. If the OAAU had taken off under him shyt woulda got extremely real. NOI killed him, but not without a lot of help from the feds.

The NOI may have pulled the trigger, but they didn't kill him. The NOI was simply a pawn in a much bigger chess game. The eyes that were on him were WAY beyond the scope and resources of the NOI. The Feds were watching/taping Malcolm throughout Europe, Africa and the Middle East. On his overseas trip, he wanted to stop in Paris, but he was barred from the country. NOI simply doesn't have that level of juice. Hell, the NOI couldn't stop somebody from entering Chicago.

The US government agencies had people on the ground watching him because he was planning on literally taking the issues of the black diaspora to the next level...he was putting together a case against the USA in order to take it to the UN for crimes against humanity. Even that is way beyond the scope of understanding for the NOI, and that is why he was too dangerous to remain alive. In the movie, they highlight the Haaj, however he spent much more time in Africa and Europe trying to garner support for his case, which was the main reason he was traveling.

If he would have won or even made a good case, it would have spelled disaster for not only the USA but the colonial powers in the Americas in general-England, France, Spain, etc. It would have been a HUGE political chess move and would've given too much inspiration to the black and brown masses across the world. Plus, it wouldn't have stopped with the USA....it would've translated to cases all throughout the Americas being brought to the UN. Not to mention, possible revolution throughout Africa against its colonial blood suckers.

What Malcolm X was putting together was simply to dangerous if it would have come to fruition, so they had to stop that.

Peace
 

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The NOI may have pulled the trigger, but they didn't kill him. The NOI was simply a pawn in a much bigger chess game. The eyes that were on him were WAY beyond the scope and resources of the NOI. The Feds were watching/taping Malcolm throughout Europe, Africa and the Middle East. On his overseas trip, he wanted to stop in Paris, but he was barred from the country. NOI simply doesn't have that level of juice. Hell, the NOI couldn't stop somebody from entering Chicago.

The US government agencies had people on the ground watching him because he was planning on literally taking the issues of the black diaspora to the next level...he was putting together a case against the USA in order to take it to the UN for crimes against humanity. Even that is way beyond the scope of understanding for the NOI, and that is why he was too dangerous to remain alive. In the movie, they highlight the Haaj, however he spent much more time in Africa and Europe trying to garner support for his case, which was the main reason he was traveling.

If he would have won or even made a good case, it would have spelled disaster for not only the USA but the colonial powers in the Americas in general-England, France, Spain, etc. It would have been a HUGE political chess move and would've given too much inspiration to the black and brown masses across the world. Plus, it wouldn't have stopped with the USA....it would've translated to cases all throughout the Americas being brought to the UN. Not to mention, possible revolution throughout Africa against its colonial blood suckers.

What Malcolm X was putting together was simply to dangerous if it would have come to fruition, so they had to stop that.

Peace

Pretty much.
 

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On pg 432 now....damn the epilogue is a long chapter(not that I'm complaining)...fabulous book I can see me rereading this multiple times....

Speaking of books have you read the one assata wrote while in cuba that's very popular? I haven't but been thinking about it for a while

I learned about Malcolm X watching bits and pieces of Spike Lee's movie about his life. This sparked my interest, which led me to reading his autobiography years ago. I learned so much about him that I watched the movie several times and truly appreciated it. It missed some things and over-exaggerated others, but I'm grateful that it offers a snapshot into a great man's life that many would not know about it not for a movie format since he is not highlighted in school and/or larger society in general.

I feel there is so much to this man and his story that not only black people but the world was robbed of due to his murder. He was doing something that could have single-handedly revolutionized the struggle of the black diaspora...internationalizing the issue and coordinating black people in Africa, Europe and the Americas for a united front to the world. This is why he was killed...not because of some "chickens coming home to roost" statement in a speech. Black men like that aren't killed for peanuts...they're killed because they are doing and/or planning something that could potentially ruin an entire system and way of life.

His autobiography is my favorite book and I re-read it every once in awhile just to refresh. And I get something new from it each time. Like the epilogue to the book and movie stated, "he was our manhood."

Peace
 
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