I learned quite a bit about him in highschool. Just because kids aren't paying attention doesn't mean its not being taught.
Malcolm X: How much do know about him?
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I learned quite a bit about him in highschool. Just because kids aren't paying attention doesn't mean its not being taught.
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Killin fake hip hop
Fox News would definitely still shyt on MLK today. But his stance, much like Obama's today undermines those who have more "radical" but more correct stances. Like MX said in the clip... integration should NOT be the goal. They were able to, through MLK, make it the goal. And everything that MX said came to fruition.
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Its about HOW its being taught my dude... HOW.
They make him out to be some foil to MLK who's ideas and stances were too radical or impossible as well as simply making him a part of history instead of taking the approach of critically looking into his stances. For example they actually TEACH non-violent resistance in school. Proclaiming MLK to be some sort of genius for it... all the while ignoring the place of Blacks in America even though the things MLK fought for a basically in practice. We never looked into, "well, was Malcolm correct?" "Can this be implemented?" "Is 'by any means necessary' actually a more reasonable approach?'"
most of what MX said did come true. all of his warning came true...... but MLK was a genius at reaching the masses. He wasn't even a real Christian - he rejected most of those beliefs right before he went to college. He did what he had to do because people like Fred Hampton, MX etc will always scare away the masses of us. We aren't strong enough as a people to hear the truth from real people. Just look at HL.... Pro blackness makes most of the posters uncomfortable. Everything is 'pseudo'. If most black people are following the Church we needed a church dude like MLK to motivated us..... once he had the attention.... he was switching it up to - 'fukk these cac' then he was shot.
He literally wasn't taught in my high school. most high schools didn't teach about him they way they taught about demons like George Washington. i had a 4.0 so i was paying attention.
Then again... i went to a texas hs - my pro black art projects got thrown in the trash regardless if they were artistically better than the Bs that those works by people who only took art to get the credits. Point is... the vast majority of HS student don't learn about important black figures outside of Rosa parks, mlk. Don't learn about african history outside of a few glamorized images about egypt and slavery.
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I hear ya man, bu you at the same time can you really blame a publicly funded school to teach violent resistance to the government? The same government that is facilitating the education?
At some point parents need to step up and teach their children some shyt too.
I teach high school history in a small suburban school, mostly white. I will say that African American history is emphasized more heavily than that. Obviously there could be more. Then again, I also work in the North East, which is quite liberal. I can't speak for the South.
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Killin fake hip hop
They teach violent resistance ALL the time. Look at how they cover wars and revolutions of white people. They celebrate that shyt, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day.... MLK Jr Day. They want black people to be passive. Period.
4th of July is the only example which is relevant to this discussion, and that was violent resistance in defense of our government.
They want the entire population to be passive. Period.
Family Man
Banned
I feel you. Have you dug any deeper?Honestly, I know everything about him from reading the Alex Haley's autobiography on him in
junior highschool. And, believe it or not our elementary school showed us Spike's movie version
of him. Needless to say, seeing his assassination at the Audubon Ballroom ripped our young hearts out
That's a misconception that MX taught violence or violent resistance. Only after really studying the man and reading and listening to his speeches and interviews that I found out he was actually teaching black people to defend themselves. Not to be violent but to defend himself in the face of danger. CACs and the educational system have warped MX into some violent extremist that the looking to murder white babies.
Agreed, I was just responding to dude who was talking about violent resistance not being taught in US schools.
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Killin fake hip hop
Memorial Day and Veterans Day are days to honor soldiers. Soldiers are the tool of violence. The very definition of By Any Means Necessary. They dont want the entire population passive, if so we would have come down on these crazy ass militias out in the middle of nowhere ready to do the whole Gov takeover with their guns (think Sarah Palin's husband). Now, you are right, they dont want people over throwing their government, BUT they certainly arent about non-violence. If white people were in black people's position they wouldnt be about non-violence.
Soldiers are violent by order of the government. I was referring to violence against the government, which is something that clearly the government is against promoting in the schools that they facilitate, regardless of race. I think we agree on this.
Madvillain
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Anybody know any other good non-Haley Malcolm books? I read the Marable one, and thought it was great. But a lot of people claim dude was inaccurate, so it's hard to discuss what I picked up from there.
People I think still don't give MLK enough credit. He & Malcolm were meeting in the middle a lot later in life, but the schools kinda leave King alone after he wins the Peace Prize. No mention of Vietnam, poverty, unionism, the Campaign or even really deeper understanding of how his nonviolent program really worked. Really we never learned of his times up North. A lot of his economic/war writings/speeches still hold up today.
People I think still don't give MLK enough credit. He & Malcolm were meeting in the middle a lot later in life, but the schools kinda leave King alone after he wins the Peace Prize. No mention of Vietnam, poverty, unionism, the Campaign or even really deeper understanding of how his nonviolent program really worked. Really we never learned of his times up North. A lot of his economic/war writings/speeches still hold up today.
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Well, I'm not sure... if youre talking "official position" of the government I'd say I agree, no government wants to be overthrown. However, the right to bare arms is in place to overthrow government if it becomes tyrannical... that was the purpose of that law, not hunting, or "defending" yourself against nikkaz with skittles and iced tea. So the actual law of the land is all for violence against THIS government. The problem is white people havent had to deal with the same shyt black people have so they dont see the tyranny as easily. I mean, all they needed was the president to be half black to get them talking about overthrowing the feds... imagine if they were actually subjected to the shyt we been subjected to.
Family Man
Banned
My views on MLK changes depending on the day that you catch me. Sometimes I think he is great and other times i think he was a puppet for the CAC establishment. I know he is an incredibly complex figure. However, I think both him and his movement was very misguided and he may have been a net negative to the progress of black people. I think he realized that I was trending toward some of MX's position but it was too late
Richard Wright
Living Legend
The Ballot or Bullet is probably the second best speech of all time behind Obama at the DNC in '04. My mother is a black nationalist and basically taught me from a young age about Malcolm.
If he had taken his case to the UN we would be living in a much different world.
If he had taken his case to the UN we would be living in a much different world.