Majority of Black Americans reject the idea of GAY right as CIVIL rights..

[No1]

Well, I haven't, and I've seen no one in this thread EQUATE (MEANING EQUAL) the homosexual struggle to the black struggle. I've seen the fight to gain equal rights COMPARED (COMPARISON, NOT EQUATE). I've seen folks who then take this COMPARISON and interpret it to be equating the two. I could understand an emotional response in regards to the second.

The people who are getting very upset with the comparisons also have clearly stated that they don't agree with gays being able to marry. So it's not like they're solely upset with the comparison, to act like their views on homosexuals aren't influencing the emotional response is a bit silly.

I don't fail to realize anything and I never said blacks as a whole don't support the movement, I don't know about a society as a whole but from what I've read blacks support gay rights about equally with whites but support specific things even more than whites (like hiring discrimination gay experience). I'm debating with folks on here who don't support the movement, I'm not on here condemning the entire black race.

I also see people trivializing the rights that they're trying to obtain because it isn't something as extreme as slavery.

This is weak as hell. Basically, you backtracked into only talking to the people on here when before that you said that "you've never seen anyone" which is in keeping with how you always use your immediate surroundings and facebook as a proxy. You do fail to realize a lot. You start going off on tangents. No one said anything about you condeming the black race. You said you didn't understand why people get offended and I told you why. People don't have to say they are directly equally to draw comparisons, use memes and make arguments that imply such. Just like how I miss things that offend my female friends all the time, I was telling you what you were missing. I was talking to you like an adult. But I'll leave it alone because you're cool peoples and you're not the type of person who can be debated with on anything you strongly believe in without you taking it personally as I found out yesterday. I wouldn't want to implicitly be called "fukktard" again.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

there is no question to dodge. If you want to start a thread about HOW reproduction happens, I'm sure that can be done. It seems you may need education there too, as I see ZERO marriages in nature but plenty reproduction. So your argument for marriage/reproduction is actually unnatural if we are looking to reality to ground our arguments.

Unless you can show me some marriages in nature...

Don't be obtuse nikka......ish aint a good look.......You know exactly what folks mean by marriage\nature.....

 

[alpo]

there is no question to dodge. If you want to start a thread about HOW reproduction happens, I'm sure that can be done. It seems you may need education there too, as I see ZERO marriages in nature but plenty reproduction. So your argument for marriage/reproduction is actually unnatural if we are looking to reality to ground our arguments.

Unless you can show me some marriages in nature...

you see............you didn't answer the question, let me repeat the question because while you may been looking at gay porn, you may had missed it. CAN TWO MEN OR/AND WOMEN START A FAMILY?

see? is it big enough for you?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Good goobly woop, where the fukk did that come from...And how will it be proven that they cannot have kids....How did you even come up with that rebuttal....?

...How will it be proven?

Lol I try to resist this but I can't. You're too stupid to carry on a debate with. I cant, you're too dumb. I'm sorry.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

This is weak as hell. Basically, you backtracked into only talking to the people on here when before that you said that "you've never seen anyone" which is in keeping with how you always use your immediate surroundings and facebook as a proxy. You do fail to realize a lot. You start going off on tangents. No one said anything about you condeming the black race. You said you didn't understand why people get offended and I told you why. People don't have to say they are directly equally to draw comparisons, use memes and make arguments that imply such. Just like how I miss things that offend my female friends all the time, I was telling you what you were missing. I was talking to you like an adult. But I'll leave it alone because you're cool peoples and you're not the type of person who can be debated with on anything you strongly believe in without you taking it personally as I found out yesterday. I wouldn't want to implicitly be called "fukktard" again.

You weren't debating points I made about gay marriage, you were just berating me on how it's impossible for me to understand an emotional response to a comparison between gay rights and black rights because of the color of my skin. Sorry, I thought we were men here, able to control our emotions and use logic/reason to inform our opinions. I assure you I don't take things personally on here. I just like to talk shyt. I mean, are you on here agreeing with folks like alpo or are you only here to criticize comparisons?

Also, what the hell am I supposed to refer to other than my experiences with people on here and those around me? Is there some website I can go to to view the total number of people who have equated(in all aspects) the black civil rights movement with homosexuals?

 

[No1]

You're the one who keeps trying to get me to post like that again. I had to drop some bars real quick before I approach this Evidence shyt I have to do. I got 20 minutes left on this break :yeah:

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

...How will it be proven?

Lol I try to resist this but I can't. You're too stupid to carry on a debate with. I cant, you're too dumb. I'm sorry.

Don't cop out man...You can debate it...You're of higher intelligence right?

A lot of new nikkas lack common sense nowadays....

But riddle me this..When a man and women get married, what tests do they take?

Is a fertility test mandatory for both genders?

If a man and women try to have a kid for 3 years and nothing happens, does that mean that they are incapable of conceiving?

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

black people. lining up with xenophobes and republicans. to withhold other people's rights

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Don't be obtuse nikka......ish aint a good look.......You know exactly what folks mean by marriage\nature.....

nah I actually dont, because there is no marriage in nature. It is a social construct that has nothing to do with nature. Thus any argument you make against gay marriage, using nature is defeated already. So all we have to debate are our social constructs in regards to marriage in general. In our society ALL HUMANS are to be treated equal under the law, anything else is ILLEGAL.

Now, our country has never been against doing illegal things to its citizens and people that inhabit the land, so it should come as no surprise that it is still happening. Just know that as long as we have our current laws in place denying equal rights to anyone is illegal.

Go head and make the thread so I can teach you about reproduction...

 

[alpo]

It really blows my mind how upset and emotional you anti-gay marriage people get. I use facts and research to back up my points while you continue talking about things that are completely irrelevant to the issue at hand (MARRIAGE). Go back to reading the bible you stupid fukk.

"facts and research"? "Facts and research"? who said i read the bible? where did this "bible" came from? i like how you downplayed my post. but you right tho YOU ARE INTELLIGENT

 

[alpo]

Don't cop out man...You can debate it...You're of higher intelligence right?

A lot of new nikkas lack common sense nowadays....

But riddle me this..When a man and women get married, what tests do they take?

Is a fertility test mandatory for both genders?

If a man and women try to have a kid for 3 years and nothing happens, does that mean that they are incapable of conceiving?

TOO LOGICAL!!!

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

"facts and research"? "Facts and research"? who said i read the bible? where did this "bible" came from? i like how you downplayed my post. but you right tho YOU ARE INTELLIGENT

Believe it or not I remember your stupid ass from religious threads.

ScienceDirect.com - Child Abuse & Neglect - The prevalence of child sexual abuse: Integrative review adjustment for potential response and measurement biases
The prevalence of homosexual behavior and att... [Arch Sex Behav. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI

is what I used to inform my previous post about homosexuals being abused as children. Now where are your sources or evidence?

All you do is keep posing questions that have nothing to do with whether gays should or should not be allowed to marry. That isn't debating or illustrating your intelligence.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

nah I actually dont, because there is no marriage in nature. It is a social construct that has nothing to do with nature. Thus any argument you make against gay marriage, using nature is defeated already. So all we have to debate are our social constructs in regards to marriage in general. In our society ALL HUMANS are to be treated equal under the law, anything else is ILLEGAL.

Now, our country has never been against doing illegal things to its citizens and people that inhabit the land, so it should come as no surprise that it is still happening. Just know that as long as we have our current laws in place denying equal rights to anyone is illegal.

Go head and make the thread so I can teach you about reproduction...

No shyt its a social construct. One that facilitates reproduction in a manner that benefits the woman and child.....

And ALL HUMANS don't have to be treated fairly under the law......History has shown us that....That is ultimately a moral issue that trickles down from the powers that be and people have to fight for it or against it...

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

where were you when alot of gays come out and say they were molested? where is the fight then? oh that's right, it's better to accept 'they were born gay" to accept the fact that most of them had been molest as a child, which that makes somebodies "responsibility". yeah go ahead and ignore this! nobody said nothing when them boys were molested in penn state, everybody just brush it away like it didn't happened; exspecially like a lot of you people witnessed seeing your family member happened to him or her. Yeah go ahead and ignore this! look at how many kids today have been molested and nobody DO A THING! EVERBODY MAKED JOKES ABOUT BEING MOLESTED. Yeah go ahead and ignore this!

i see all the gay "rights" soldiers didn't answer these questions. what, this post wasn't "intelligent" enough? COME ONE GAY SUPPORTERS, FIGHT FOR YOUR "RIGHTS"

being abused as a child and homosexuality do not have a CAUSAL relationship (look this one up, I know your scientifically illiterate ass has no idea what that means) because not everyone who is abused as a child becomes a homosexual. There is a higher incidence of child abuse amongst homosexuals because typically men are the ones doing the abuse, it has to do with the perpetrator being the same sex as the child (causing the child to be attracted to the sex of the abuser). Twice as many women suffer from child abuse then men but only half as many have homosexual experiences.

oh really? WOOOOOOOOW!

That was your response after I took my time to research facts and respond appropriately. This is why people don't want to debate you. You don't know how. It isn't your fault. You're either too emotional or ignorant. Pick one.

 

[alpo]

Believe it or not I remember your stupid ass from religious threads.

ScienceDirect.com - Child Abuse & Neglect - The prevalence of child sexual abuse: Integrative review adjustment for potential response and measurement biases
The prevalence of homosexual behavior and att... [Arch Sex Behav. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI

is what I used to inform my previous post about homosexuals being abused as children. Now where are your sources or evidence?

All you do is keep posing questions that have nothing to do with whether gays should or should not be allowed to marry. That isn't debating or illustrating your intelligence.

that link you posted is not fact. please don't let me go there with your "scientific" ass because i'll give you some science alright.