ma$e was suppose to have the career that drake has :mjcry:

[I love Latina women]

Mase did great in that era. Could he have had a longer career..yeah. but some people have short careers that are great like Barry Sanders/mase others have long careers Like Kobe/jay-z (20 years). hell id like to hear mase keep rappin and putting out albums just like id love to see megatron, lynch and barry sanders have longer careers but it is what it is, they did what they did and now they're done.

true, true. i agree
plus when you take into account it was a different era, more competition (even though hip hop had become more watered down but still) unlike today
but yeah, i agree

 

[AMcV'88]

going through Ma$e second album again because of this thread.
forgot how bad most of it was...beats sounds like those sort of rap beats you hear in reality tv shows.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Ma$e could NEVER obtain the fanbase nor achieve the status that DRAKE has maintained so consistently over the past 5 years

Mase NEVER was acknowledged by the POP WORLD he wasnt n thier radar

White Folks didnt even know his name..he was Puffs sidekick to them


His HOOK game doesnt even come close to DRAKE

His subject matter revolved mostly around being a fly guy crack dealer

Hell even when he was in a collective "CHILDREN OF THE CORN" he was probally the weakest link next to Camron

The boy made hot club hits but chart wise he aint fukking wit Drake

His flow was teased as being borderline retard very slow rather basic

and for the record...MASE had ghostwriters too...they just ain't as dope as DRAKE's


You guys are so passionate with your hate for Drake that u say some outlandish things

Not saying I disagree with some of this, but which OVO member are you, ilovemakkonen or PND that was so extra like a chick on Love & Hip Hop

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

not really....mases' era was better if not the best then one of the best in hip hop period. Drake wouldn't have survived, at all. He's nice in the era of downloading music on phones and watching youtube and buying songs singally. But in the era where you had to go the store to get the record, or cop the bootleg from the dude on the corner, and you had to wait for the radio to play the new drops.....drake wouldn't have made it. he couldve/wouldve made songs, hell everybody did. but the reality is he just woulda been another teenaged tv star rapper the likes of bow wow, nick cannon, kel mitchell, pretty much any black teenaged actor that was on tv in the 90's. Nobody would have taken him seriously then, and Ive never met anyone that takes him seriously now. He talks softly and tells women what they like to hear, but he doesn't have that edge, he's not a "bad boy" like mase and aint from a cool city like NY. Plus he's lightskinned, he would have had a slightly better run than B2k.

dude it's all about HIT RECORDS.........if you tellin women what they like to hear....YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A STAR

And hoes weren't and still aren't concerned about REGIONAL ORGIN.....As long as the shyt banging in the club and they could shake they azz to it

you could be from fukking IDAHO and they still will rock with you ...regardless how piss colored or charchol flamed blackened you might be

Women are the taste makers in the rap game it's been like tht since the early 90s

so i don't see why Drake would have a hard time....considering he can "vocalize" (sing) too....

he is an A&Rs dream ...when i first started managing acts i always hoped to find a cat who can sing his own hooks.....

and no i ain't no OVO cat...nor am i in the industry any longer...last time i actually worked in music was 2014 and that was from a media standpoint

im just calling things the way it is

 

[Broad Street Bully]

Not saying I disagree with some of this, but which OVO member are you, ilovemakkonen or PND that was so extra like a chick on Love & Hip Hop

If anyone on here ever gives Drake any semblance of credit on here than its always "extra" or gotta be on OVO payroll to y'all nikkas lol. nothing boul said was outlandish at all.

 

[BK The Great]

Mase > Drake

 

[Playaz Eyez]

If anyone on here ever gives Drake any semblance of credit on here than its always "extra" or gotta be on OVO payroll to y'all nikkas lol. nothing boul said was outlandish at all.

There's giving someone genuine credit, and then there's sucking another man's dikk. Given your response, you seem to fall in the latter.

 

[I love Latina women]

going through Ma$e second album again because of this thread.
forgot how bad most of it was...beats sounds like those sort of rap beats you hear in reality tv shows.

i like double up
it's not harlem world which is a classic to me but double up had some gems on it

 

[I love Latina women]

Mase > Drake

well that's a given

 

[BK The Great]

well that's a given

Drake stans would say otherwise, but Mase actually wrote his lyrics so he's more credible.

 

[I love Latina women]

Drake stans would say otherwise, but Mase actually wrote his lyrics so he's more credible.

drake stans gon say what they gon say because 9 times outts 10 they have no memory of ma$e or much time before drake

you gotta think, the average drake stan in either in high school or early years of college so they don't have no recollection of when ma$e was a bit of a factor in the game

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Mase remains one of the most overrated acts in rap history

He gets credit for being a soft pretty boy before everyone started doing that, but he has no catalog or classics (except maybe that Total joint), run shorter than leprechauns

 

[tuckgod]

that's NOT the full extent of the story....

i've actually interviewed someone who was a well known industry stylist in the Atlanta area and member of S.A.N.E ministries which is the church organization that Mase headed along with his wife.....

we had a off the record conversation about Mase...and she was only willing to share this because me and her (the stylist) had mutual friends in the industry and were once neighbors on Old National highway down in Atlanta

anyway she stated that the pressure from the Baby Lane issue was a small factor but not as a significant factor as Mase being Mase....a swindling unloyal type of guy.....

plus MASE always loved the south ..he use to stay in jacksonville and was a frequent patron of JUSTINS and was in the company of WOLF and the BMF clique in atl ..he was good there...had girls in atl and loved the scene and the ability to make $$$ without all the complexities that come with being in NYC

anyway

she said Mase really wanted to get into the "megachurch game" as a source of revenue and exit plan from the draconian BAD BOY deal he had signed with Puff.....

to Puff's credit....and i quote her..."he didn't wanna fulfill the obligations of the contract....inspite of the fact that he was locked in for more album options owed to puff"....she also said...Mase knew Puff has a soft spot when it comes to spiritual manners...similiar to him signing Hezikiah Walker the gospel singer to a sweet deal....Mase was able to convince Puff to release him from the deal inspite of the fact Mase breached the contract...

Mase had a plan he had Creflo Dollar as his "mentor/OG" and was trying to be in that "lane" ($$$) but found out just like the rap game it takes MONEY to make MONEY.....

so according to her MASE conjurs up this plan to approach NELLY whom had a mutual relationship with Mase former manager CUDDA LOVE ....Cudda and NELLY both ran FO REEL ENTERTAINMENT and got coerced into sponsering a set of luxury church vans for MASEs church and forking over some $$$

MASE ran that game on them...like he did Puff.....in exchange for the cash and transportation...he gave them the option of resigining him to bring forth a "clean pop styled" rap album with spiritual themes sprinkled in if he ever decide to excersise his option to go back in the rap game....

that never happened with Nelly and Cudda......he decided to return with a "bad boy gone clean" image with another mogul

...hence "WELCOME BACK" video via PUFFY.....in 2004



big fat advance...huge budget ...big rollout..then less like a year later walaaah he LEAVES again.....

puff is pissed he even stated in a radio interview how he lost millions of dollars investing in Mase's return....

which resulted in Puff and 50 having issues when it came to negotiating for MASE to come to GUNIT

so you can't hate on PUFF for wanting a 2 mill pricetag on that azz....

PUFF, CUDDA LOVE, NELLY and 50 to extent all got swindled......along with the church congregation and the fans

MASE is the "LEON" of the rap game

Now that's how you fukkin post

 

[BK The Great]

drake stans gon say what they gon say because 9 times outts 10 they have no memory of ma$e or much time before drake

you gotta think, the average drake stan in either in high school or early years of college so they don't have no recollection of when ma$e was a bit of a factor in the game

it's a fact Drake took parts of Mase's style like Fabolous did. he even took his own lyrics on his Worst Behavior track. Mase is an originator of the flashy, braggadocious style. he birthed alot of these guys who went on to rap about the same thing.

 

[I love Latina women]

Mase remains one of the most overrated acts in rap history

He gets credit for being a soft pretty boy before everyone started doing that, but he has no catalog or classics (except maybe that Total joint), run shorter than leprechauns

i would argue that harlem world is a classic
got classic singles with 24 hours to live, feel so good, tell me what you want, lookin' at me, and album cuts that won't singles like the player way, do u wanna get $, take what's yours, nikkaz wanna act, wanna hurt ma$e, cheat on you etc etc
he got classic features from 112 records to brandy, mariah's honey remix, brian mcknight and then his features on the puff daddy and the family singles too!

his run was short but ma$e was just gettin' started