Lupe Fiasco -Tetsuo & Youth vs Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly

Battle of the New School Greats

  • Testsuo & Youth

    Votes: 139 55.6%
  • To Pimp a Butterfly

    Votes: 111 44.4%

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Kaypain

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can you imagine j cole and kendrick teasing us with a song in 2011 and still never dropping the song? :ohhh:
I was waiting for Kendrick to spit his verse but all we got was a basically background vocals to a hook written by Cole :beli:
 

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Only song I don't like on T&Y is No Scratches and I'm not big on "i" on TPAB. So the albums are really neck and neck to me
 

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Only song I don't like on T&Y is No Scratches and I'm not big on "i" on TPAB. So the albums are really neck and neck to me
Time will tell for these two IMO, I like No Scratches and it's 80s Miami Vice sounding beat :wow:

I mess with i too, but I don't like what he did with it on the album.
 

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it's too late for you kids. you're walking brand names.
I'm a grown man.

You . You're a chatty patty
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A lot of dudes stuck on the lyrics either can't be straight up when lyrical rappers of equal caliber are brought up ( K-Rino, KA, Elzhi, Skyzoo etc.)
OR
They're way to focused on the smaller aspects of a song or in Kendrick case an entire album to be honest.
In this case it's the supposed lyrics, if we're honest, I feel any song on this album, can go toe to toe with anything on Lupe's :ld:
And this is because Kendrick treats his album not as just a collection of songs but an overall message and point he wants to convey.
This is what elevates the "album" beyond a disjointed experience and turns it into something more film like.

Another thing is a lot of dudes on here go on about "Lyrics" but don't understand that being "lyrical" isn't just being as
technical as possible it's about having a certain level of eloquence and delivery that helps the Rapper/Emcee ascend beyond
the limits of words. Eminem and Pac IMO do that well, they express emotion, they emote in a way that words alone can't.

This isn't to say that Lupe cannot or has not done it, I'm just saying I feel it's an important aspect of Rapping/Emceeing that
is almost never included "Lyric" discussion. :ld:
A lot of y'all would rather Kendrick deliver his lyrics in a predictable and monotonous way which removes
a lot of the implied context and I feel that if you take that away from him you're removing one of the key aspects of his style.
And in doing so a lot of these songs simply wouldn't work :ld:
 

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t and y was lupes best effort since the cool. but he gets no points for forcing lyrics and trying to intentionally go over nikkas heads to appease his stans and feed his ego they helped build

years ago he had a balance and it came out natural. now he is over doing it to try and live up to the stans hype

TPAB >

Lu has songs where he focuses on delivery, melody, etc. He has several different styles of flow.

& that was the whole point of T & Y. To be super lyrical. After Lasers everybody jumped on the "Lupe sucks" bandwagon and said he dumbed his sh*t down. So in response to that he put out his most complex album yet and some just can't handle it.

Lupe said it himself. If u a hardcore Lupe fan, you'll rock with this album, but if you not, you simply won't fukk with it.
people can handle it.

you can acknowledge his lyricism and still realize that doesnt equal better music. the album was good. it wasnt his best and it isnt the pinnacle of art his stans make it out to be

lupe's excuse to make "this lyrical album for the fans" just turned into another tool his stans could use to overthink every line and boost his ego even more
 
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No one sees Lupe bar for bar. NO One. nikkas need a thesaurus and olde english dictionary to decipher da Gawds wordsmithery.

Thats the problem with Lupe

If i gotta decipher a fukking rap album then in not tryin to hear it. I like to be entertained by music not lost,puzzled or riddled to death and need to read a website to understand the shyt.
 

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Believe in "brainwashing" in the year 2015 brehs

Why would you not? Brainwashing is something that is factually true, why would anybody disbelieve that in any year? If I'm aware of your opinion you think Kendrick's album is better, so do I, I'm just saying that statement doesn't make much sense.
 

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For the record, I have Lupe over Kendrick overall so far if you consider of all time, he's shown me more so far, but the last particular album from each I'd give it to Kendrick.
 

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Why would you not? Brainwashing is something that is factually true, why would anybody disbelieve that in any year? If I'm aware of your opinion you think Kendrick's album is better, so do I, I'm just saying that statement doesn't make much sense.
:comeon:
 
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