Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo & Youth (Discussion thread)*Stream*

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"Takes another nikka to turn me
Get it straight, I ain't late on states
I'm just sternly stating
How what I do, with grace takes another nikka to turn mean
My returning's like Blockbuster with a tape
And I ain't kind but I don't hit
So you starting at the end, that's the part where you begin
I skip the bullshyt so we can start it where we win

Yeah, spoiler alert
I can hear you all saying "boy you're a jerk"
But it's cool though, know we gotta rule yo
Get in, then we win and do it all again, ho
"

First verse of the first song with an actual theme (I consider Mural the intro and a skill statement. Blur My Hands the real beginning of the album for me)

Either he definitely wanted us to play the album both forward and backwards or that boy the biggest troll ever and is taking advantage of his deciphering ass fan base.







LMAO

Hate the song that made most of us Lupe Fiasco fans brehs.


Jill Scott is hip hop cancer.
 

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Yo if we're talking about Gemini (AKA Gemstones) it's a goddamn SHAME his Troubles Of The World album never got a proper release. Gemstones is one of the tragedies of Lupe's tenure with Atlantic as 1st & 15th never got the proper push as an imprint that it deserved (I'm sure Chilly's incarceration didn't help matters) Gemini and Mathew Santos got done dirty...


Anybody know if Gemini and Lupe are still cool? I know since he decided to go the "Christian" route he hasn't been the same but Gemini could spit his ass off and he really could ain't as well. He was what Drake WISHES he could be from a talent perspective
They're semi-cool I guess, but he's still making music. I actually ran in to him this past weekend at this bar I was at for a BDay party. Cool dude, told him I'm a fan and to keep making music.

Here's his latest single...


He posted this, this past week on FB too, :heh:



Here's an interview he did discussing his relationship with Lupe and what went down in his life that made him leave 1st & 15. It's a long ass interview, but it's a good one if you're a fan.

 

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I know a lot of people back in 07 were saying The Cool was better than F&L but it doesn't get much play from me these days

i play both versions of F&L straight through all the time

but the cool i typically only listen to go go gadget flow, paris tokyo and hip hop saved my life... i don't care to listen to some of the darker/weirder songs on the album :manny:

Actually The Cool was considered really strange and a sharp turn left when it first dropped. It wasn't until after that people started to feel it was a little better.

Both are five mics for me but the cool is just a little better imo.
 

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That I actually liked was The Cool. I heard the last 2 albums and the friend of the people mixtape.
Ah ok, I thought you were one of those brehs who stopped checking for him after Lasers and hadn't heard anything since then.
 

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Ah ok, I thought you were one of those brehs who stopped checking for him after Lasers and hadn't heard anything since then.
Nah I've always check for Lupe cause I knew he had it in him lol. Too much label politics and him getting outside of himself musically.

But i dont have the tracks that led up to this album. If u got them a link will help a breh out lol.
 

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At this point Lupe NEEDS to link back up with 'Stones. Only thing Stones is missing his dope production. His post 1n15th tapes were fire lyrically, but I couldnt really rock with them.

Lupe seems like hes getting into the right space creatively. Imagine them going back n forth on some of tracks on T&Y? :mjcry:
 

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I pretty much shytted on every project he released after The Cool & rightly so but this joint made me a fan again, it's dope :ehh:

It's got me visiting rapgenius a lot though:krs:
 

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This album is so fuggin good ....most lyrical album I heard in years

I can't stop playing it, man. It's like Nas, Canibus, Twista, and Mos Def merged into one man. there's nothing Lupe can't do with words. Modern day heiroglyphics and sanskrit combined. :wow:

The album is like a musical matryoshka doll:

Semenov_Traditional_Nesting_Doll_2.jpg


From Wikipedia: also known as Russian nesting doll, refers to a set of wooden dolls of decreasing size placed one inside the other. The first Russian nested doll set was carved in 1890 by Vasily Zvyozdochkin from a design by Sergey Malyutin, who was a folk crafts painter at Abramtsevo. Traditionally the outer layer is a woman, dressed in a sarafan, a long and shapeless traditional Russian peasant jumper dress. The figures inside may be of either gender; the smallest, innermost doll is typically a baby turned from a single piece of wood. Much of the artistry is in the painting of each doll, which can be very elaborate. The dolls often follow a theme; the themes vary, from fairy tale characters to Soviet leaders.

When you play the album backward, you get the analogy perfectly: each song is a complete statement by itself, but as you continue to play the songs it becomes clear they each fit inside the next, building to a bigger magnificent whole. The other similarities are clear: the artistic intricacy; the layers, the complex representations of gender ("Little Death"), each doll following a theme...

When you play the album forward it's as if Lupe tranformed the rap game into a video game of his own song, and on the final song he beats the entire game... Proceed to the next level, indeed. :damn:

This is the first album I've heard that has quintuple entendres... there are complicated mathematical and linguistic theories boiled down to their essence in couplets... I honestly think someone could write a 250 page book of critical essays on the themes and theories explored on these songs. shyt is just :mindblown:

"Such is life: odd as Egg McMuffins at night..." :ohlawd: Lupe manages to connect inflexible moral codes of love and marriage to the absurdity of time-specific divisions of meals, and the hypocrisy of puritannical values as well as fast food industry practices. "is it slippin' like permission? Am I trippin' like field." Lupe had me feeling like a child again, connecting his confusion over love, religion, and politics to those childhood recollections of school that wash over us like a fever-dream.
:blessed:
 

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I can't stop playing it, man. It's like Nas, Canibus, Twista, and Mos Def merged into one man. there's nothing Lupe can't do with words. Modern day heiroglyphics and sanskrit combined. :wow:

The album is like a musical matryoshka doll:

Semenov_Traditional_Nesting_Doll_2.jpg


From Wikipedia: also known as Russian nesting doll, refers to a set of wooden dolls of decreasing size placed one inside the other. The first Russian nested doll set was carved in 1890 by Vasily Zvyozdochkin from a design by Sergey Malyutin, who was a folk crafts painter at Abramtsevo. Traditionally the outer layer is a woman, dressed in a sarafan, a long and shapeless traditional Russian peasant jumper dress. The figures inside may be of either gender; the smallest, innermost doll is typically a baby turned from a single piece of wood. Much of the artistry is in the painting of each doll, which can be very elaborate. The dolls often follow a theme; the themes vary, from fairy tale characters to Soviet leaders.

When you play the album backward, you get the analogy perfectly: each song is a complete statement by itself, but as you continue to play the songs it becomes clear they each fit inside the next, building to a bigger magnificent whole. The other similarities are clear: the artistic intricacy; the layers, the complex representations of gender ("Little Death"), each doll following a theme...

When you play the album forward it's as if Lupe tranformed the rap game into a video game of his own song, and on the final song he beats the entire game... Proceed to the next level, indeed. :damn:

This is the first album I've heard that has quintuple entendres... there are complicated mathematical and linguistic theories boiled down to their essence in couplets... I honestly think someone could write a 250 page book of critical essays on the themes and theories explored on these songs. shyt is just :mindblown:

"Such is life: odd as Egg McMuffins at night..." :ohlawd: Lupe manages to connect inflexible moral codes of love and marriage to the absurdity of time-specific divisions of meals, and the hypocrisy of puritannical values as well as fast food industry practices. "is it slippin' like permission? Am I trippin' like field." Lupe had me feeling like a child again, connecting his confusion over love, religion, and politics to those childhood recollections of school that wash over us like a fever-dream.
:blessed:
:wow:

One of the GOAT Posters has blessed this glorious thread

:banderas:

Dope post, it's like anybody who sits down with this album can come up with their take on it's brilliance and it always makes sense when it's properly explained.
:mindblown:
 
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