Lupe Fiasco tells Aye Verb that Kendrick Lamar ain’t dangerous as a lyricist. He also say that Drake is a better rapper than Kendrick 🔷Twitter Spaces

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Same thing with Pac, Same shyt with DMX, and anyone else that fits that category. That shyt matters to me and is just as important.
It's literally the music.

I feel like...most humans aren't that artistic. They are left brain dominant. Even some of the rappers are left brain dominant.

Versus say...a kanye, that is right brained, kendrick is a right brain, busta is a right brain, tech n9ne, a right brain.

Those weird dudes that do that dirty shyt you can't really teach? Yeah that's right brained.

But since most humans are left brained, they assess art in a left brained way. You can weed them out by noticing how much they talk about bars and lyrics, over the shyt we're talking about. You'll notice they aren't really talking about anything artistically, but instead the things that are easy to read and verify.
 

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Lots of hypocrites flip flopping in here.

When it's Drake vs Kendrick/Anyone else: "Career accolades, sales and popularity don't matter! Only dikkriding fags even bring it up!"

Lupe disses Kendrick: "B-b-but he's irrelevant, just jealous he isn't popping etc."
 

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I understand the sample credit but again, every song has numerous contributions and not every song has a sample. Also help with hooks and choruses is basically ghostwriting. Cole is one of the few artists I can check credits and not see any other writer credits.

I agree with your point and the origins of Rap. I disagree that rappers don't dance and sing. They did in the 80s they don't count? A lot of rappers got rid of the r&b feature and sing their own hooks.

Like most musical genres, rap has evolved. It is the most popular form of music and we're in a microwave society that wants music fast and will move on to the next thing if they don't get it. So it doesn't surprise me that the bigger the artist gets, the more help they get to keep pumping out music. It is what it is.

We can pound the table and demand the artists stay true to art of expect Lyricists to pen their own lyrics but the genre has grown to pop music level.
Do you have an example of a Kendrick song with a bunch of listed writers?
 

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The front man of your favorite rap group wears black face

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And yet you guys have been coping for the last 3 days over his diss record :mjlol: please convince me that Officer Ricky dropped the ultimate diss record and Duckworth has a nuclear bomb ready to drop :mjlol:
 

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Funny how posters are in here are calling Lupe old man when these are same old fukks that in the Nas upcoming album sucking his dikk. If Lupe is Old, what the fukk is Nas. If Lupe said Kendrick was the better, yall would have been on dikk. "See a real rapper recognize Kendrick, he knows Aubrey is fake, tired of these youngins destroying rap"
Then why was Lupe promoting Kendrick Lamar during peak GKMC days? Why was Lupe gassing up Kendrick as the next best thing only to switch up on him?

You tell me what that looks like
 

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Lots of hypocrites flip flopping in here.

When it's Drake vs Kendrick/Anyone else: "Career accolades, sales and popularity don't matter! Only dikkriding fags even bring it up!"

Lupe disses Kendrick: "B-b-but he's irrelevant, just jealous he isn't popping etc."
Why is Lupe dissing Kendrick now when he was one of the ones gassing him up when GKMC came out. And during that time Kendrick brought him out on stage in the Chi.

When did he switch up and start dissing Kendrick and why?
 

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I understand the sample credit but again, every song has numerous contributions and not every song has a sample. Also help with hooks and choruses is basically ghostwriting. Cole is one of the few artists I can check credits and not see any other writer credits.

I agree with your point and the origins of Rap. I disagree that rappers don't dance and sing. They did in the 80s they don't count? A lot of rappers got rid of the r&b feature and sing their own hooks.

Like most musical genres, rap has evolved. It is the most popular form of music and we're in a microwave society that wants music fast and will move on to the next thing if they don't get it. So it doesn't surprise me that the bigger the artist gets, the more help they get to keep pumping out music. It is what it is.

We can pound the table and demand the artists stay true to art of expect Lyricists to pen their own lyrics but the genre has grown to pop music level.

Brother I don't even know what you're trying to do here. I feel like you're just replying out of boredom because half of what you're saying is the kind of disingenuous muddying the waters whataboutism I previously referenced. If you're credited - it's not ghostwriting - and in rap, the core expectations are that your verses are yours. Ironically, even Drake says this in his music - "and I could use a writer just to balance out my flows, but I never share my thoughts this is all a nikka knows" :dead:

Evidently, I'm talking about the current landscape of rapping. By large, rappers don't sing, dance nor play instruments. Besides, all these talking points are a sideshow - we all know rapping ability is the core litmus test for rappers. What are we doing?

Rappers "needing help" to meet consumerism demand is not the conversation nor relevant in this context. I need help to pay my rent - it wouldn't justify breaking civil contracts to do so. I'd end up in jail. Likewise in hip-hop, if you break the mutual understanding and expectations of the genre, you simply won't get the credit you want/covet by a substantial part of the culture/fans - this goes back to me telling why it's not difficult to figure out why Drake seemingly doesn't get credit on thecoli - which was the beginning of our exchange

No one is pounding the table about nothing, the lines are clear - you get exposed for having ghostwriters = XYZ number of people won't regard you highly as a rapper and ABC number of people won't care. You're seemingly the one confused about a simple notion.
 
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