Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

[spliz]

production and working with "real musicians" is more attributed cause he has a better budget, location and connection etc than artistry

Lupe is just as good of a songwriter when he wants to. The nikka chooses not to put a focus so much on it tho and committed to complex lyricism concept music

Only thing u got was instrument of the voice

I think T&Y showed that Lupe is prolly a better songwriter than Kendrick when everything connects the right way. With no studio tricks. Dude made songs thats catchy musically and that connected on a different level all the way thru. From verses to hooks. It all meant something. U can tell he put time into that album on every level.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

i see what he's saying but i would retort by asking, why would punchline and double-entendre be the be-all end-all of lyricism? i see them as just a tool (among MANY others) within the craft of song-writing (which is what lyricism really is. song-writing). Cube and Scarface had some very direct lyrics a lot of times but are some of the best lyricists to ever do it in my humble opinion. They used words and delivery to evoke emotion masterfully. not everyone has to rap the same way with using the same styles and arsenal. I guess the bigger question is, is "lyricism" strictly about showing off how clever and witty you are with words?

then what exactly is Kendrick good at then

 

[NoHalfWay]

That can never be the case. Kendrick almost deserves any accolades he gets cause he's consistently great. Hasn't dropped a wack, or even just ok, project yet. Lupe stans big him up and dude puts out mostly garbage nerd rap. Big difference.

Kendrick doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Nas, Hov, Pac, Cube and them.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Let's put it all on the table


What do you people specifically like about Kendrick Lamar other than "other people like him?"

prepare for a lot of

 

[6CertsAndAMovie]

he isn't. I swear i listen to his shyt and TRY to like it cuz at one point, I thought it was just me. I thought I was the only hip hop fan in amerikka who though this guy was severely overrated. I listen to a song like this and wonder why everyone think it's one of the greatest things ever and I don't.


but then I realized that Aftermath was behind him

This is all true but that bass jazzy music backing the track >>>>>>>>

 

[Cadillac]

Dudes in here are just commenting on stuff they don’t really know in depth about. It’s more complex than “Lupe fukked up, Kendrick did better with his career”

They assume Lupe and Kendrick were/are the same person, and were afforded the same situation as far as management and etc.

Lu’s right hand man and co-CEO founder of 1st & 15th Chilly went to prison. Chilly went to prison and FNF fell apart, that means all the artist (Matthew Santos, Gemini, Sarah Green, etc) got thrown to the wind along with Lupe to an extent. Around the same time his pops passed along with his homie Stack Bundles.

His whole label was basically dissolved, and with Chilly not on the streets handling business it left Lupe in a difficult place in having to juggle his company while not being able focus solely on the music. He had to take on assignments he wasn’t ready for by himself. After 2007 when The Cool came out and Chilly was gone, that’s when Atlantic tried their hand with the 360 shyt.

It’s like Top Dawg getting locked up at the start of Kendrick’s run (let’s say, by the time finch comes out) and all the TDE artists/producers gotta lean on Kendrick’s power to uphold the house.

Plus the other stuff you mentioned, Lupe was never gonna be a superstar cuz it wasn’t even his intention to be one.

What the fukk do people think his hit single “Superstar” is about? Lupe ain’t built for it

This thread became a harboring for Kendrick fans and Lupe haters to just say a bunch of bullshyt.

These nikkas prolly don't know who Chilly is, nor do they know 1 bar off SS

They just posting to get at Lu, cause for some it's just fun to hate and for Kendrick

 

[Champion]

There's a lot of people in here bashing Lupe instead of debating his opinion.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I'm still mad at Lazers

 

[ISO]

production and working with "real musicians" is more attributed cause he has a better budget, location and connection etc than artistry

Lupe is just as good of a songwriter when he wants to. The nikka chooses not to put a focus so much on it tho and committed to complex lyricism concept music

Only thing u got was instrument of the voice

Foh

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Whoever put TPAB up there with Thriller is delusional also. fukking great album tho.

People actually doing that?

 

[Billy Ocean]

Kendrick doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Nas, Hov, Pac, Cube and them.

He keeps it up he damn sure will. Not saying he's as good as them but his consistency is something that needs to be respected. Sooner or later one of these contemporary MCs is going to start being mentioned with the GOATs and it's looking like Kendrick is going to be that guy. nikkas can be mad all they want but it is what it is.

 

[ISO]

Not even close.

Writing overly complex metaphor heavy, lyrical miracle songs is not strong song writing. Kendrick writes better hooks than Lupe and his verses are strong while still being accessible. Lol at not being close. Kendrick's albums are better and composed of better songs how is Kendrick not even close in song writing to Lupe?

 

[The Mad Titan]

Lupe about to drop that album and just getting the streets bubbling

 

[Cadillac]

Foh

them facts tho. But your ass ain't gonna listen to no argument so whatever

 

[Left.A1]

Kendrick CANNOT MAKE SONGS LIKE THIS

Tbh I love lupe and this is one of my favorite tracks ...but lyrically this is not special and I don’t know why people regard it in that way ....the nostalgia of what he’s talking about in regards to his movie references is what I believe make people overly giddy about this record as oppose to any sort of lyrical excellence ...he’s not dropping heavy simi’s or ambitious metaphors the Entendres are sparse and thematically it’s a pretty linear retailing of preexisting storylines .... I will say his multi’s are definately dope and the concept is creative here but Kendrick could abosolutely make a song like this

Now with this one I will say that yeah Kendrick is probably not the rapper that is going to go into the Entendre realm as relentlessly or as effortlessly as Lupe that’s no doubt ....but if we agree to that there is no arguing that Lupe does NOT have the dexterity to make a Banger as infectious as humble