LT says he rather be in the HOF than win a Super Bowl...

[Absolut]

if im playing still, sure, i want a taste of a title. if i end up not getting one, and sit and reflect on my career when its over, id much rather be a shoo-in to be enshrined in the hall than win a ring

 

[fantabolous]

No he's right

2003 playoff statistics

Tony Parker - 14.7 ppg, 3.5 apg, 40.7 FG%

Manu Ginobli - 9.4 ppg, 38.6 FG%

David Robinson - 7.8 ppg, 6.6 rpg

so everybody is just gonna ignore stephen jackson scoring in double figures... tony parker wasn't nearly as bad as people are trying to make him out to be, manu doing the same thing he does now (not nearly as well, but providing a spark off the bench) and then they had bruce and Drob (who both still played very well defensively) and malik rose grabbing boards

its not always about high scoring to determine good players, especially for a team like the spurs who have always been good for having players fill needs

 

[fantabolous]

I think in any sport its still a dumb argument. Unless its an individual sport I'd take HoF over a championship every single time. In basketball its easier to be a "leader" of a team, so easier to catch the blame for your team's failures. IE if lebron never won a ring, people would always use that to say for such a "superstar" he should've been able to carry a team to a championship and that would be used to tarnish his legacy.

Every player thats a star isn't just a centerpiece for a championship team and leader. KG for example is a great player, and a definitely hall of famer, but is not a team anchor, and would be much better suited to be the secondary star on a team. I see Dwight being the same way. I don't think that takes anything away from them, nor do I think they should have done anything different throughout his career.

In the NFL its much harder (except for a QB) to be considered to be an UNQUESTIONED leader on a team, so the blame doesn't fall as heavily if there's no success. Actually, excuses are typically made for great players in the NFL for not winning rings (except for QB) such as barry, moss etc

 

[PortCityProphet]

Look at it like an obituary.
Player x played in the NFL for 10 years. He was a 2 Time pro bowler and part of one championship team.
Player y played in the NFL for 10 years. He was a 3 time MVP 7 time pro bowler 6 time all NFL team member.

 

[mvp_status]

so everybody is just gonna ignore stephen jackson scoring in double figures... tony parker wasn't nearly as bad as people are trying to make him out to be, manu doing the same thing he does now (not nearly as well, but providing a spark off the bench) and then they had bruce and Drob (who both still played very well defensively) and malik rose grabbing boards

its not always about high scoring to determine good players, especially for a team like the spurs who have always been good for having players fill needs

No I didn't ignore stephen jackson, my post was meant to show that Parker, Manu, & D-Rob weren't nearly as effective as the guy I quoted seems to remember them being.

Of course every team that wins the title has to have contributions outside of their stars. Even Hakeem had a rookie Sam Cassell & Kenny Smith hitting big shots in 1994. That's not my point

Tony Parker was getting benched in the 4th quarter of the Finals and when he was on the floor teams were giving him the Rondo treatment because he couldn't hit a jumpshot to save his life. Manu wasn't the offensive threat in '03 that he was from '05 to now, you basically admitted as much.

shyt, it was Speedy Claxton & Stephen Jackson hitting all the big shots down the stretch for the Spurs in the title clincher. Tony Parker wasn't a beast until the '04 playoffs. Manu didn't really hit his stride until 2005.

 

[Black Ball]

I know somebody must have said it already, but in the NFL the HOF is much more important than winning a ring. Especially if your position isn't the QB.

We gonna be talking about folks like Eric dikkerson & Barry Sanders for years without any fukks given about them not winning a ring. Their greatness is not compromised in anyway.

This argument can only be true of NBA players really.
1. Basketball HOF sucks.
2. If you a superstar in the NBA, you have such a great affect on the teams success that chances are you will have a great opportunity to win it all. Chances also are if you don't, it's probably on you in some form.

 

[King Jove]

Football is the ultimate team sport, and the ultimate goal of the ultimate team sport should be the ultimate objective for anyone who plays football.

That’s what former Patriots linebacker Tedy Bruschi believes, contrary to the views of former Chargers and Jets running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who said earlier this week on NBC SportsTalk that he’d take a career that ends in Canton over one that concludes with one or more Super Bowl rings on his fingers.

During Thursday’s SportsCenter loop, Bruschi makes the case for choosing a silver trophy over a bronze bust.

Bruschi explained that induction into the Hall of Fame is determined not on any field but by 44 voters. “A Super Bowl, a championship is something you earn,” Bruschi said. “And it’s something that can never be taken away. And no one can stop you from doing that.”

As to the inherently subjective process of picking the best of the best players for immortality, Bruschi says, “You can’t control that, but you can control winning.”

He’s right.

And let’s take it a step farther. Individual accomplishments necessarily mean nothing in a team sport. What matters is the team. So the goal for any member of any team should be success of the team, and true success of an NFL team is determined in one way. By winning a Super Bowl.

If, then, a player was a member of a Super Bowl-winning team, the player participated in an inherently shared success. Since that’s the objective of the game, winning a Super Bowl should carry more meaning than the Hall of Fame or any other external acknowledgement of the exploits of any one player.

That’s not to say the Hall of Fame should be disbanded. But any player in any team sport should aspire not to be a Hall of Famer but to be a champion.

For any athletes who don’t feel that way, there’s a whole bunch of individual sports out there.

what a bytch

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Seriously who takes vacations to Canton,Ohio? They build the hall of fame up but dont nobody cares about the speeches and the bust like that.A Super Bowl ring is accomplishment.

 

[Listen]

T
That shyt is for TV. You also forgot to add that he had a torn groin.

Just because a cameraman decided to pan in on him doesn't make it a story.

That shyt was a made for TV issue, and you're eating that bullshyt up.

Running backs don't play football with MCL tears or sprains.

That's some movie bullshyt.

My comment wasn't based on the camera, it was based on him sitting the whole game.

Tomlinson said he re-injured the knee when he was hit on the first play from scrimmage against the Patriots. He carried only twice, both in the opening drive. He caught a short screen pass the following series before retiring to the sideline for good, with more than 9:45 left in the first quarter.

Early in the second quarter, it was announced in the press box that Tomlinson had a "sore knee" and that he "can return."

Tomlinson is one of the humblest players in all of pro sports. He was the NFL's MVP in 2006 and has won two straight league rushing titles. Yet his toughness was questioned by fans and TV commentators alike, including former star cornerback Deion Sanders of the NFL Network.

Sanders said he was under the impression that Tomlinson was close to 100 percent. "I have expectations, and when you don't meet my expectations, you open yourself for us to try to guess," Sanders said. "Now what's the problem? You're a big-time player. And big-time players must play big-time games."

Sanders also said he thought Tomlinson's injury would need to warrant a surgery "for him to get a pass on this one."

This is what I was referring to.

 

[Formerly known as...]

And of course you're going to remember non-HOFamer Teddy Bruski 30 years from now while the rest of the world will say "whose that?"

Nah, they will have re-runs of Pats America's Game still in 30 years time so Bruschi legacy will live on.

LT on the other hand....

 

[NYC Rebel]

Nah, they will have re-runs of Pats America's Game still in 30 years time so Bruschi legacy will live on.

LT on the other hand....

LOL @ Bruschi "legacy"

 

[Black Ball]

Seriously who takes vacations to Canton,Ohio? They build the hall of fame up but dont nobody cares about the speeches and the bust like that.A Super Bowl ring is accomplishment.

We talking the NFL breh. We remember great players, not ring winners with the exception of the QB position.

Does anybody shyt on Bruce Smith, Jackie Slator, dikk Butkus, Eric dikkerson, Barry Sanders, Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen etc... for not winning championships?

 

[PortCityProphet]

Look at it like an obituary.
Player x played in the NFL for 10 years. He was a 2 Time pro bowler and part of one championship team.
Player y played in the NFL for 10 years. He was a 3 time MVP 7 time pro bowler 6 time all NFL team member.

 

[rapbeats]

I agree

the analysts on E!SPN talmbout "championship every time!! this is the easiest question ever!!"

in 10 years, no one will remember a Tedy Bruschi and the other 50 or so players no one remembers nor cares about. n'ggas only care about the QB when it comes to championships

HOF'ers are always remembered and enshrined forever tho

I REMEMBER BRUSCHI. right no. lol.

in 10 years i'll remember dude.

 

[gameover82]

not too sure about this....a ring is something all players are striving for and that defines there career...hall of fame is just mostly just bunch of cacs picking and choosing