Loving who you love vs. emphasizing black love

[RoyalQ]

A poignant thing that umar Johnson said is that who you love is a reflection of your values. If your as woke and problack as you say you are then you would see how every race on the planet had a hand in hurting Africans. Including Hispanics. Imagine if Malcolm x married a white woman. People would no longer take him seriously because he says one thing but allowed himself to fall in love with the opposite. That would call into question everything he's ever said.
By this thread and your responses it proves to me what I've thought all along, it's dangerous for a black person to date interracially. You get too close to other races and you begin to get lulled by them. You begin to soften your stance and your words and begin to foolishly think that there are a few allies in other races. You become resentful towards blacks for not accepting your relationship the way you hoped we would. You wouldn't have made this thread if you didn't see the problem. Your purposely pushing the problem down.
Like 2 different races of people who are both proud of themselves can't get along. Somebody is folding. A very proud some black person can't be with a very proud patriotic Hispanic. You can't say what you really want to because the other person will push back. They can't say what they really think about black people for fear of offending you.
Like I'm a proud Haitian, and hell will freeze over before I marry a Dominican man. Helllll nooo. We will fist fight. I'm gonna say that DR is fukked up for mistreating Haitians and sending so many back to Haiti when they've been there for so long. He's gonna say well Haitians did xyz to us so Haitians deserve to be treated like pesky trash. I'm gonna get pissed, he'll get pissed. It simply doesn't work unless we completely ignore our heritage which is losing our identity.

 

[ViShawn]

You know Malcolm X did mess with white women right and changed his views on race relations post Mecca right ?

 

[Reality]

A poignant thing that umar Johnson said is that who you love is a reflection of your values. If your as woke and problack as you say you are then you would see how every race on the planet had a hand in hurting Africans. Including Hispanics. Imagine if Malcolm x married a white woman. People would no longer take him seriously because he says one thing but allowed himself to fall in love with the opposite. That would call into question everything he's ever said.
By this thread and your responses it proves to me what I've thought all along, it's dangerous for a black person to date interracially. You get too close to other races and you begin to get lulled by them. You begin to soften your stance and your words and begin to foolishly think that there are a few allies in other races. You become resentful towards blacks for not accepting your relationship the way you hoped we would. You wouldn't have made this thread if you didn't see the problem. Your purposely pushing the problem down.
Like 2 different races of people who are both proud of themselves can't get along. Somebody is folding. A very proud some black person can't be with a very proud patriotic Hispanic. You can't say what you really want to because the other person will push back. They can't say what they really think about black people for fear of offending you.
Like I'm a proud Haitian, and hell will freeze over before I marry a Dominican man. Helllll nooo. We will fist fight. I'm gonna say that DR is fukked up for mistreating Haitians and sending so many back to Haiti when they've been there for so long. He's gonna say well Haitians did xyz to us so Haitians deserve to be treated like pesky trash. I'm gonna get pissed, he'll get pissed. It simply doesn't work unless we completely ignore our heritage which is losing our identity.

This makes very little sense. Being proud of whatever in-group you're in and thinking you're superior to out-group's...those two things aren't equivalent. There's a difference between valuing blackness and thinking it's superior (to me at least). I have never bought into other groups/races, etc being our "allies", but that's irrelevant in the context of my relationship. Collectively Hispanics are not our allies, nor are Asians, Arabs, etc. Does that mean that individuals from these groups can't do things that help the cause of equality? No. Also, I can't help but laugh at the irony in your reasoning on not being willing to marry Dominican.

The interesting thing is that this thread keeps coming back to white people, white people, white people. White people and white supremacy beat me if I don't marry black, regardless of the fact that I'm attracted to black women, have dated black women, etc. It can't just be a question of timing or meeting the right person at the right time. No.

Black guy marries latina woman = white people win?

Strange math to me.

 

[NERO]

If you truly love black people as a black man then it is impossible to love the dominant society considering our history. I view any black man who dates out or worse yet, MARRIES out as a nonentity. They have forfeited the integrity of their voice for superficial reasons and when their little cave bytch dries out at age 32 or whenever they do they will feel like the empty sellout mark little bytch that they are. There is no nation building with the enemy. If you need a little becky action then your priorities are fukked up and I don't want to hear about it sellout. Latino women are another thing but they still ain't about us. They have their own battles to fight and their responsibility is to their nation first. I don't trust brothers who shack up with latino women, afro-latino excepted. It's really simple. Black problems need black solutions. White people are the enemy and have sewn nothing but disorder, strife and hatred into our communities since first contact. To lie in bed with your enemy is not conducive to solving black problems. It will only exacerbate them. The pull of p*ssy is strong no matter the race and I acknowledge that but for a real black man the highest blessing is to put aside those leanings and think about his nation. Not the next 5 minutes or that night.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

You love in relation to what society loves most of the time. The propaganda society pumps out for the masses is what dictates your taste in women, your taste in clothing, cars, etc... IN other words, you've been programmed to love anything other than Black. Some Black folks realize the propaganda and reject it, other Blacks say, "I cannot choose who I love" which is a bunch of croc.

And Blacks shouldn't love anything other than Black. I would even go as far as to say it is your moral imperative to love only Black at this point in time in history.

Truth.
Knowledge alone is not power...applied knowledge is power

Nikkas are "conscious" and "problack," until it's time to start a family?
Nikkas respect and envy the achievements of other communities and they witness many of the practices that are implemented in order to maintain that community, until it's time to start a family?
Nikkas are acting like donating money and time alone creates a strong community, while breeding out their race?
Nikkas are acting like you are anti-other races because you are encouraging black family units?

 

[RoyalQ]

This makes very little sense. Being proud of whatever in-group you're in and thinking you're superior to out-group's...those two things aren't equivalent. There's a difference between valuing blackness and thinking it's superior (to me at least). I have never bought into other groups/races, etc being our "allies", but that's irrelevant in the context of my relationship. Collectively Hispanics are not our allies, nor are Asians, Arabs, etc. Does that mean that individuals from these groups can't do things that help the cause of equality? No. Also, I can't help but laugh at the irony in your reasoning on not being willing to marry Dominican.

The interesting thing is that this thread keeps coming back to white people, white people, white people. White people and white supremacy beat me if I don't marry black, regardless of the fact that I'm attracted to black women, have dated black women, etc. It can't just be a question of timing or meeting the right person at the right time. No.

Black guy marries latina woman = white people win?

Strange math to me.

Pride doesnt equal superiority. I dont think im superior to anyone but im too prideful to be with a DR man given our historical clashes. I dont think haiti is better, but i love haiti and cant be with someone who thinks we deserve poor treatment. Thats not supremacy thats pride and honor.
But I knew you wouldnt get it, your in too deep. Marry the girl if thats what you want but dont make a thread asking our opinions on it then get confused as to why people are against it. If you felt it doesnt matter then your conscience should be at ease and you wouldnt be asking questions. Your going back and forth fighting for her, then just marry her. But you cant have your cake and eat it too. If you marry her then your opinion on black matters gets nullified. Fact. It doesnt matter how you feel, black society as a whole will ignore you. I get that you dont think its fair but life's not fair. Marry a black women, get black respect. Marry a non-black woman, get ignored. Simple. You cant have the best of both worlds.
And your firmness means your going to marry her anyways. Maybe you just made this thread to get a general feel for the reaction from pro-blacks before you popped the question.

 

[RoyalQ]

You know Malcolm X did mess with white women right and changed his views on race relations post Mecca right ?

Idk about that. Ill do personal research on it. If i find out that its true then malcom loses my respect too. The end.

 

[ViShawn]

Idk about that. Ill do personal research on it. If i find out that its true then malcom loses my respect too. The end.

This was Malcolm before he met Elijah Muhammad but yes he got caught stealing w/ one of his buddies and three white women who were cohorts with him, hence the reason he was sent to prison.

Anywho he changed his views on the black family structure as he got older and of course post Mecca he changed his views radically.

 

[Yup]

Thread's been enlightening. Seems like some of y'all are fighting for black supremacy which is not what I'm fighting for. If blacks were in the same positions Asians or white people were in, would you still feel this way? When I help out a fellow black person, that's a restorative rather than an instinctive thing--meaning I'm doing that to restore some semblance of balance since white supremacy has tipped the scales against us (though I should probably stop saying "us" based on the responses of this thread, huh?). It's funny to me that this is THE most pivotal thing. Like if I wanted to contribute in any meaningful way it'd be discounted just because my wife wouldn't be black.

Then wby did you create thus thread if you had already a position. You sound like a fake problack person to me.

 

[RoyalQ]

Then wby did you create thus thread if you had already a position. You sound like a fake problack person to me.

Basically. Idk he even started the thread if he thought there was no problem.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

You know Malcolm X did mess with white women right and changed his views on race relations post Mecca right ?

Yeah back when he was sleep

 

[mcdivit85]

A couple of the dudes I grew up with have had kids with non-black women. I ain't mad at them for their choice, but sometimes i look at the kids like "damn how could you be cool with your kids looking NOTHING like you"

This applies to my close friend. He married a white chick. His child shows little resemblance to him since the child is very light(he's light brown himself) and has straight, dirty blonde hair.

Peace

 

[mcdivit85]

If u love this woman and see yourself building something positive with her then be happy. It's hard to fine genuine happiness and if you've found it with her then be happy
I've personally never dated outside my race but I'm coming to the realization that if God sends me the perfect man for me then who am I to reject my blessing because he didn't come in my ideal form.
Be happy brother. That's all. Blessings

If you want to date/marry non-black, then go ahead. But don't use God as your excuse. That's on you and you alone. YOU have made a conscious decision to be open to non-black men because YOU haven't gotten what YOU wanted.

It's funny how God didn't send you Tyrone but now he might be sending you Todd. Don't make God an accessory to bed wenching.

Peace

 

[mcdivit85]

Mr pride comes before anything else. Date and marry who your comfortable with. The community ain't there when you broke only you.

Will the non-black community be there for you?

Peace

 

[Scott Larock]

Will the non-black community be there for you?

Peace

you ain't gon be there for me either breh