Loving who you love vs. emphasizing black love

[Kilgore Trout]

OP wants a pass to PAWG in peace.

 

[KOohbt]

I consider myself a racially conscious person. I became aware of the mechanisms of white supremacy fairly early in my life (early teens) thanks to Malcolm X's autobiography. For better or for worse, racial consciousness is the primary lens through which I view the world.

I've embraced and am proud of my blackness, but I also have a strong sense of self and individuality. If I'm honest with myself, race is something I'm really passionate about because I think white supremacy has prevented many blacks (including myself) from being free and at peace to reach their true potential as individuals. By extension, romance is the one area that I still choose to idealize and see as highly personal, private, and individual. I know racial dynamics are pervasive, but if there's any space in which they should not dominate, for me, it's that space.

I've dated a variety of women: black, Asian, and white, and now my current girlfriend is a Latina. I love her, and she fits the bill for everything I want in a wife/life partner. I have a great relationship with her family and they've welcomed me since day 1. She and I have the same philosophy on education, family economics, finances, and building wealth. More importantly, her values are solid and her loyalty to me is unimpeachable in my mind. This is the woman I want to raise my kids. There's no doubt in that we'd build something great together.

The only issue is that, from time to time, there's this tinge of discomfort with the feeling that I'm betraying my community by dating "out". I'm disgusted when black football players, basketball players, financiers, or whomever suddenly wind up with non-black women when they're successful. Every time I see a new instance of this, the question flashes to mind: am I doing the same thing?

I also have the nagging fear that my kids could succumb to white supremacy/the black inferiority complex, and run away from their blackness through dating, friends, or whatever growing up. The idea of being old and grey, seeing my kids "preferring" not to date black or associate with the black community, or worse yet seeing them disconnect from their black family, is terrifying. I've seen it happen so often with the kids of mixed families or black families who do well. It's extremely depressing.

What do other brehs think (I'm not asking what to do. It'd be stupid to walk away from this. Just asking for thoughts)? Any of you guys in or have been in similar situations? What'd you do?

Breh. Not everyone cares about black people. You clearly aren't one. You don't need to come and explain why you don't care just go be with them and leave us the fukk alone.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

A couple of the dudes I grew up with have had kids with non-black women. I ain't mad at them for their choice, but sometimes i look at the kids like "damn how could you be cool with your kids looking NOTHING like you"

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That makes no sense at all your blackness is not tied to a black woman.
Following that logic you can only be pro black if your married.

In fact that's best way to be "pro-black" better than countless post on the coli or calling people cacs.

Create a strong black family and you've done more than any activist ever could.

 

[Taadow]

Uh don't throw black people under the bus with this shyt. We owe our existence to the hood, the church, the activists, the mosques, the social clubs, the HBCUs, the Greek system, the many institutions and individual throughout history that risked their lives so we can be here. Especially as a black man the hood shows up when something happens to you.

Don't forget them so you can feel comfortable with lupe or Becky.

"We owe our existence" to swimming faster than the rest of the other sperm that shot out of our daddies' balls.

Like I said at the end of the day, the 'hood, church, activists, mosques, social clubs, HBCU, the Greek system,
and those other institutions and individuals ain't gonna be waiting at home when you get there at night.

The 'hood may show up when something happens to you, but what good does it matter if they weren't there
before something happens to you?

Other communities determine the direction of their paper trail. They don't allow the best and the brightest cede to a rival group because of the whims and fancy of love or lust.

Why would hulk hogan say that shyt about what type of black man his daughter can date? Follow the money!

@Taadow

This chit doesn't have anything what what I was talkin' about.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Other communities determine the direction of their paper trail. They don't allow the best and the brightest cede to a rival group because of the whims and fancy of love or lust.

Why would hulk hogan say that shyt about what type of black man his daughter can date? Follow the money!

@Taadow

Why do yall strive to be like the most vile human beings on earth.

"Racist nasty man Hulk Hogan does it, so black people should do it"

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Muthafukkers aint learn not to make threads like this on the coli yet


OP date who the fukk you want and don't let the coli dictate your dating habits or out look on life. Ima keep it black over here tho

 

[philmonroe]

Other communities determine the direction of their paper trail. They don't allow the best and the brightest cede to a rival group because of the whims and fancy of love or lust.

Why would hulk hogan say that shyt about what type of black man his daughter can date? Follow the money!

@Taadow

Idagf about other communities and what they do. That's all y'all worry about no wonder most of y'all aren't anywhere people want to be worrying about policing people's dikk and shyt. That's not what I do sorry.

Ask nicole Simpsons family what it means. They ate good off OJ. Because their daughter married a rich man if any of her relatives needed money for a car, a business, a lawyer, tuition, surgery, vacation, they had a place where they could potentially get it.

Now imagine if OJ and his millions married a black woman (I know he had in the past) he could have spread that wealth to other black people if he were generous enough. Potentially taking a lot of black folks out of fire poverty. Or he could have married a similarly rich black woman and created a dynasty. I'm exaggerating here but back in the day that's exactly how they did it.

Now thanks to self hatred and self interest "the rule of the loins" we got black people who could be marrying eachother and building fortunes instead taking care of people outside of the race.

Cash warren got a black daddy, he married a white Latina, she is on her way to becoming very wealthy through her investments. Now imagine if cash daddy married a black woman his son married a black woman and that black women was on her way to becoming a multi millionaire from her Honest Co. Company?

Like somebody said I'm not on the welfare for chicks flow. I wouldn't save any chick black or white. So I'm not going to ask them shyt. Sounds like you just want rich black dudes for money and that's cool but don't be surprised if they don't pick you because you can feel that thirsty energy always. Yeah and most dudes unless they are extremely wealthy don't think if their dikk as a welfare giver so what your saying is honestly beyond stupid and sounds good talk of a person who isn't and probably will never be in that situation.

 

[live it to the limit]

I consider myself a racially conscious person. I became aware of the mechanisms of white supremacy fairly early in my life (early teens) thanks to Malcolm X's autobiography. For better or for worse, racial consciousness is the primary lens through which I view the world.

I've embraced and am proud of my blackness, but I also have a strong sense of self and individuality. If I'm honest with myself, race is something I'm really passionate about because I think white supremacy has prevented many blacks (including myself) from being free and at peace to reach their true potential as individuals. By extension, romance is the one area that I still choose to idealize and see as highly personal, private, and individual. I know racial dynamics are pervasive, but if there's any space in which they should not dominate, for me, it's that space.

I've dated a variety of women: black, Asian, and white, and now my current girlfriend is a Latina. I love her, and she fits the bill for everything I want in a wife/life partner. I have a great relationship with her family and they've welcomed me since day 1. She and I have the same philosophy on education, family economics, finances, and building wealth. More importantly, her values are solid and her loyalty to me is unimpeachable in my mind. This is the woman I want to raise my kids. There's no doubt in that we'd build something great together.

The only issue is that, from time to time, there's this tinge of discomfort with the feeling that I'm betraying my community by dating "out". I'm disgusted when black football players, basketball players, financiers, or whomever suddenly wind up with non-black women when they're successful. Every time I see a new instance of this, the question flashes to mind: am I doing the same thing?

I also have the nagging fear that my kids could succumb to white supremacy/the black inferiority complex, and run away from their blackness through dating, friends, or whatever growing up. The idea of being old and grey, seeing my kids "preferring" not to date black or associate with the black community, or worse yet seeing them disconnect from their black family, is terrifying. I've seen it happen so often with the kids of mixed families or black families who do well. It's extremely depressing.

What do other brehs think (I'm not asking what to do. It'd be stupid to walk away from this. Just asking for thoughts)? Any of you guys in or have been in similar situations? What'd you do?

If u love this woman and see yourself building something positive with her then be happy. It's hard to fine genuine happiness and if you've found it with her then be happy
I've personally never dated outside my race but I'm coming to the realization that if God sends me the perfect man for me then who am I to reject my blessing because he didn't come in my ideal form.
Be happy brother. That's all. Blessings

 

[LadySimone]

Idagf about other communities and what they do. That's all y'all worry about no wonder most of y'all aren't anywhere people want to be worrying about policing people's dikk and shyt. That's not what I do sorry.

Like somebody said I'm not on the welfare for chicks flow. I wouldn't save any chick black or white. So I'm not going to ask them shyt. Sounds like you just want rich black dudes for money and that's cool but don't be surprised if they don't pick you because you can feel that thirsty energy always. Yeah and most dudes unless they are extremely wealthy don't think if their dikk as a welfare giver so what your saying is honestly beyond stupid and sounds good talk of a person who isn't and probably will never be in that situation.

I no longer have a romantic view of marriage. It's more than feelings.

 

[philmonroe]

I no longer have a romantic view of marriage. It's more than feelings.

I understand its your life gotta live it how you choose. Its always been more than feelings its just not as complicated as you are making it though. I don't into a relationship thinking of my dikk as welfare or money transfers and shyt like I'm at the bank.

 

[LadySimone]

I understand its your life gotta live it how you choose. Its always been more than feelings its just not as complicated as you are making it though. I don't into a relationship thinking of my dikk as welfare or money transfers and shyt like I'm at the bank.

This isn't about welfare. Why do you keep using that word? Because it's associated with black women?

If you have a baby moms it's a wealth transfer if you married it's a joining of wealth and future earnings etc.

I think that's why black people don't take marriage seriously. You don't know why it exists it's purpose it's function etc.

At the coli marriage is having sex with only one woman and or potentially losing money in a divorce. What a stupid ahistorical view of marriage.

Grow up bro

 

[philmonroe]

This isn't about welfare. Why do you keep using that word? Because it's associated with black women?

If you have a baby moms it's a wealth transfer if you married it's a joining of wealth and future earnings etc.

I think that's why black people don't take marriage seriously. You don't know why it exists it's purpose it's function etc.

At the coli marriage is having sex with only one woman and or potentially losing money in a divorce. What a stupid ahistorical view of marriage.

Grow up bro

Look fam lets not get stupid cause if that's they way we going we might as well stop the back in forth right here. fukk does welfare have to do with black women? Don't ask me no stupid shyt like that again cause then I'm just going to take it as trolling.

Its not a wealth transfer outside of like I said 1% of people and like I said before that is for loser nikkas to worry about. I don't worry about shyt that is that low and has no real impact on me. That's too many people's problem now. You worried about people on the coli view of marriage like they are all black people or even the majority? I think you should do the last three words of your post cause you tripping.

 

[Prynce]

People wanna have their cake and eat it too

 

[Medicate]

A couple of the dudes I grew up with have had kids with non-black women. I ain't mad at them for their choice, but sometimes i look at the kids like "damn how could you be cool with your kids looking NOTHING like you"

....Man I remember a few years ago......I seen this sister with a few mixed breeds on her tail.....kids looked liked somebody grew them in a lab......... Genes wiped the fck out.....shyt makes no sense for any black folks to continue doing this shyt.....

Reminds me also of Garcelle Beauvais pic she took on People Magazine some years ago....shyt is still blowing my mind she dirtied her womb up like this: