Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

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Kinda reminds me of a passage in the Tao the way you talk about "empty" @MMS , Chapter 11:



"We fire clay to make a cup,
But we use the empty space in the center
We build walls to make a room,
But we use the empty space they surround
We form a wheel to spin,
But we need the axle hole to use it
The point:
Having something is good only to the extent
That it makes nothingness usable"
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Genesis 49:22-24
22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:smile:
 
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well as a Jehovah witness my faith is growing by the day...........Jehovah is circling the wagons before armeggeddon as humankind grows more delusional as they see how violent and unstable economically the world is instead of turning to God they are turning away from God and are engulfed in their own badness and foolishness its the flood all over again and jesus warned about what mankind is doing right now.For just like the days of Noah[a] were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. 38 For in those days before the flood, people] were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away.[c] It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man. matthew 27:37-39 history is repeating itself and as a Jehovah witness i will say this you aint see nothing yet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

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Religion has held us back for too long. Its ok to believe in a higher power but we let it get in the way of making real moves. Espousing dustiness as a virtue.
Idk how religion has held us back when the people in charge of our countries don’t believe in God, or any god. Imo MONEY and WEAPONS has held us as a species back far more than any religion.

You give humans too much credit, we’re a failure.
 

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well as a Jehovah witness my faith is growing by the day...........Jehovah is circling the wagons before armeggeddon as humankind grows more delusional as they see how violent and unstable economically the world is instead of turning to God they are turning away from God and are engulfed in their own badness and foolishness its the flood all over again and jesus warned about what mankind is doing right now.For just like the days of Noah[a] were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. 38 For in those days before the flood, people] were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away.[c] It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man. matthew 27:37-39 history is repeating itself and as a Jehovah witness i will say this you aint see nothing yet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Ain’t shyt happening.

This is overall one of the best times in human history. :mjlol:
 

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Ain’t shyt happening.

This is overall one of the best times in human history. :mjlol:
best times huh I guess those mass shootings that are breaking records are the best times right paying for housing the best times right? people are on edge all the time ...No retirement no pensions for the future is the best times right like Jesus said they take no note keep your head in the sand.... There are protests worldwide about the the mistreatment people are getting stay lost judgement day is fast approaching.
 
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He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house,
28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “



It is appointed for man to die and then there is the judgment. Laugh now , brag and boast. Think everything just happened by chance, no one created anything it was just a big bang and there is no God.


The worst thing you can hear is depart from me to weeping and ghanishing of teeth :picard:


I was once like y'all but I saw the light and I hope you do as well one day.
 

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best times huh I guess those mass shootings that are breaking records are the best times right paying for housing the best times right? people are on edge all the time ...No retirement no pensions for the future is the best times right like Jesus said they take no note keep your head in the sand.... There are protests worldwide about the the mistreatment people are getting stay lost judgement day is fast approaching.

And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sohhdom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town
 

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best times huh I guess those mass shootings that are breaking records are the best times right paying for housing the best times right? people are on edge all the time ...No retirement no pensions for the future is the best times right like Jesus said they take no note keep your head in the sand.... There are protests worldwide about the the mistreatment people are getting stay lost judgement day is fast approaching.
People been killing. 100 years ago we were locked into a whole world war.

100 years ago things like retirement and pension and any types of worker’s rights were not a thing.
 

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I know I'm wild late with the response as a Christian marsupial, but I'm not surprised by such revelations. Churches are not what they seem and no matter where you go, it is still a business. Hell, the church I used to go to made it blatant that they were a business. Then you have the corruption, the molestation issues, drugs and infidelity (a few churches I have been in had such problems), and power structure along with ego trips. It sucks because most of us desire a word or two. We strive on understanding the meaning to all of this, madness, in life. The only thing I can truly say is let the church be within you.

I do my due diligence outside the church for free 99. Shoot, I spit game on The Coli because it's my calling from bringing joy, providing testimony, and even just giving spiritual advice.

As the church becomes a slump and a declining pool of moral, just remember that God is still in control. Once you get the religious aspect out of the spiritual realm along with MAN'S dictation...you will see that God is trying to do a new thing.

Only the real spiritual heads know of such new-found steps. Until then, It's going to get worse, but God's word will always reign supreme.
 

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People been killing. 100 years ago we were locked into a whole world war.

100 years ago things like retirement and pension and any types of worker’s rights were not a thing.

Peter 3:3-7 NIV​

Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
it's on you man ...things will get worse and hopefully people will put it together but most won't .
 

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It’s fascinating how when the decline began in the 60’s so did the fight to lower taxes. And we see who the main beneficiaries of lower taxes has been.
 
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