Lord Jamar DEMOLISHES KRS-One's claim of Latinos pioneering Hip-Hop

[Awesome Wells]

We thank him and the Peurto Ricans. Hiphop wasnt a black genre starting out,it became a black genre later on. So we thank those who created that "a hiphop,a hibby to the hibby to the hiphiphop" music. But hiphop became a black genre later on and it has been ever since.


Blacks created rock n roll,but its not black music is it? Who created it deserves credit,but hiphop has been overwhelmingly dominated by black americans for a long time. I wont say who created it doesnt matter,but its a footnote based on where it went and who dominated and contributed the most.

Hip Hop is a culture. That's the first thing.

Second, we created Rock and Roll and Jazz, and those are still black music forms. Just because people don’t typically associate the creator with the product, that doesn't mean it can just be taken.

 

[spliz]

On the countdown for when the good brother @IllmaticDelta crushes these weak arguments about Herc founding anything in regards to hip hop

There's videos that have been posted with Herc out of his own mouth saying he copied what Black Americans were already doing

All facts.

 

[spliz]

We thank him and the Peurto Ricans. Hiphop wasnt a black genre starting out,it became a black genre later on. So we thank those who created that "a hiphop,a hibby to the hibby to the hiphiphop" music. But hiphop became a black genre later on and it has been ever since.


Blacks created rock n roll,but its not black music is it? Who created it deserves credit,but hiphop has been overwhelmingly dominated by black americans for a long time. I wont say who created it doesnt matter,but its a footnote based on where it went and who dominated and contributed the most.

U are absolutely 100% wrong.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

DISCO KING Mario was his name

he played mostly DISCO its in his name

therefore he played heavy non FBA music

debate over

Keep it going, stay on @TripleAgent neck! Here's a few more!

Funkmaster Flex only plays 70's funk

Blastmaster KRS-ONE does demolition on construction sites

Grandmaster Caz & Grandmaster Melle Mel were both high-ranking martial arts champions

And the Kings Of Rock, Run-DMC stole their gimmick from Led Zeppelin.

 

[010101]

the community that the culture came from was diverse..........*

 

[LebronsHairline]

Oh mothafukkas sprinted in here mad as hell

 

[papa pimp]

Point me to all these early hip hop records with island nikka samples

surely all these island nikkas was using their parents records to create breaks if they invented the genre

 

[papa pimp]

DISCO KING Mario was his name

he played mostly DISCO its in his name

therefore he played heavy non FBA music

debate over

you do realize there was exponentially more disco samples in early rap records than island nikka music samples?

 

[blackestofpanthers]

Point me to all these early hip hop records with island nikka samples

surely all these island nikkas was using their parents records to create breaks if they invented the genre

Their "influence" is solely based on being in the vicinity of aframs during the period
There's absolutely no island or any other influence other than afram music in the creation of hip hop. These people keep perpetuating lies while simultaneously trying to gaslight black americans for pushing back at historical inaccuracies. "Why does it matter who started it? ", while constantly inserting themselves with lies

 

[papa pimp]

Their "influence" is solely based on being in the vicinity of aframs during the period
There's absolutely no island or any other influence other than afram music in the creation of hip hop. These people keep perpetuating lies while simultaneously trying to gaslight black americans for pushing back at historical inaccuracies. "Why does it matter who started it? ", while constantly inserting themselves with lies

If I was from Antigua or where ever the fukk

If I came up with this new dope genre based on taking sections of older records

Aint no way in hell I'm not pulling out Antigua records to sample

this is what these folks want us to believe

 

[Don Mack]

More lying diaspora immigrants trying to rewrite history and latch on black American culture

 

[Still Benefited]

Hip Hop is a culture. That's the first thing.

Second, we created Rock and Roll and Jazz, and those are still black music forms. Just because people don’t typically associate the creator with the product, that doesn't mean it can just be taken.

And? The culture of rock n roll has been considered "white boy shyt" for almost as long as Ive been alive. Only recently have you seen younger black artist incorporating rock n roll into their look,or trying to blend it with hiphop. And nearly all of those artist would probably still be looked at as being "on some white boy shyt" by most non whitewashed black people


Early hiphop was New York youth culture. There was nothing about the content that made it race specefic,or any barrier to entry where non blacks couldnt do it.


Rock in roll was watered down,sanitized blues. Which opened the door for more white people to be able to perform it authentically as any black artist doing it. It was able to be taken because we watered it down. Its been white music wver since,and whites have went on to make greater contributions. So you would sound crazy calling rock n roll black music. Just like calling hiphop "latino music" or "jamaican music" would sound laughable. I wouldnt care if you found video proof of a man named Raul coining the term hiphop,and proving he was the first rapper ever. It would still be black music regardless.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

HIP HOP is Black Culture or Black American Culture..then exploited by the White Man who made Millions and billions from it.

 

[Still Benefited]

U are absolutely 100% wrong.

What your doing is as bad as those white people who dont want to acknowlwdge black pioneers who created rock n roll. Its been overwhelmingly a black genre for about 40 years now. It kind of reeks of insecurity in my opinion. And based in fear hiphop will be taken like rock n roll was. Well stop watering it down,and cosigning the whitewashing of the talent and content. Stop supporting rappers who water the music down to make it more accesible and to "expand their brand"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How is it wrong that he was born and raised in Jamaica? He was.

Herc was flipping breaks in '73, not '75, bro. That's why Hip Hop's birth is acknowledged as 1973. Making it 50 last year. Not a year from now.

James Brown's music being used for breaks and having the b-boys get busy to that was started by Herc. There were mad DJ's before Herc. Of course. But what they were doing wasn't Hip Hop.

No, HipHip was already going on in 1970 by Herc's own admission

The birth of Hip Hop culture and what a lot of us saw growing up, started with Kool Herc. Dude even came up with the names of what we call breakers.

It didn't start with Herc...straight from Herc's own mouth!:

Dude created the rhyming style of Hip Hop and the phrases everyone used like "Ya don’t stop" and "To the beat, y'all". All of that started with him.

No, that was Coke La Rock that came up with those phrases; not Herc








the modern rap style came from Dj Hollywood circa 1971

Dudes really try'na rewrite history out here. Madness.

REAL BRONX HIPHOP HISTORY AS TOLD BY THOSE WHO WERE THERE IN 1970!






^^^the man who directly influenced Herc via the Plaza Tunnel circa 1970