Lord Finesse Is Suing Mac Miller For $10 Million

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so we can expect Styles of Beyond to sue Joey Badass for completley lifting Survival Tactics and putting out a video????

Complete bytch shyt!

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(CN) - Rapper Lord Finesse says in a $10 million lawsuit that 20-year-old rap star Mac Miller ripped off his 1995 hit "Hip 2 Da Game" to launch his music career.
Lord Finesse (born Robert Hall) has been rapping since the late 1980s, and led the popular New York hip-hop crew Diggin in the Crates (D.I.T.C.), in addition to having a solo career and writing for rappers like Biggie Smalls and Dr. Dre.
In 1995, Finesse released his hit song "Hip 2 Da Game," which is the subject of his lawsuit against Mac Miller in federal court in Manhattan.
"This is a case about a teenage rapper- Mac Miller- copying the music from a song written, produced and performed by Lord Finesse, a hip hop legend, changing the title and then distributing it under his own name in order to launch his music career," the complaint states.
Mac Miller released his version of "Hip 2 Da Game" on a "mix tapes," a term used to describe free music distributed by up-and-coming rappers.
The "mix tape" strategy has been favored by many rappers and hip hop producers in recent years. Rappers often record new rhymes over the instrumental tracks of older, popular rap songs and distribute the music for free.
Finesse, whose real name is Robert Hall, sued the website DatPiff.com, which is one of the best known distributors of free mix tapes from new rappers, and Miller's label, Rostrum Records.
Miller's real name is Malcolm McCormick.
"In 2010, Mac Miller recorded himself rapping over Finesse's music and renamed the song 'Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza' ('The Kool Aid Song')," according to the complaint.
Miller signed with Rostrum in July 2010 and released a mix tape called "K.I.D.S.: Kickin' Incredibly Dope shyt," which contained "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza."
The mix tape was released on DatPiff in August 2010, has been downloaded more than 500,000 times and has been streamed more than 450,000 times, the lawsuit states.
The video for "Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza," which uses the beat for "Hip 2 Da Game" has been viewed nearly 24 million times on YouTube, according to the complaint.
Finesse says Miller has profited from the unauthorized use of his song.
The lawsuit cites a New York Times article from last November about Miller that explains how the alleged infringement is "part of a strategy to build a fan base."
"'First, the good news: A new generation of rappers is actively trying to build a new business model in which releasing oodles of free material online builds a fan base that paves the way for revenue streams: touring, merchandise, even something as old-fashioned as a record deal,'" the Times article said.
Finesse says he filed the lawsuit after DatPiff, Rostrum and Miller refused to respond to a cease and desist letter earlier this month.
The $10 million lawsuit alleges copyright infringement, unfair competition, unjust enrichment, interference, deceptive trade practices, and a number of related state law claims. Finesse also seeks a permanent injunction from the court.
The rapper is represented by Brian Levenson and Matthew Schwartz of Schwartz & Ponterio in New York.
 

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Mr. Muthafukkin' eXquire has a song/video called Huzzah on youtube, it has the most views of any of his joints and is pretty much the song that got his name out there.

He jacked the beat for that song from a pretty unknown song by indie NY rapper Necro, who did the beat years ago.

eXquire gave Necro credit on the song.

eXquire Just got singned to Universal, not solely based on Huzzah but that obviously being the song that got him out there, eXquire 's people got a check cut for Necro on some homage/respect shyt considering that song helped kick off his career.

1. Gave him credit from the jump.

2. Cut a check when his career benefited from using someone else's beat for a song, video and single.

This is how it should be done for all the slow kids in here.
 
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Mr. Muthafukkin' eXquire has a song/video called Huzzah on youtube, it has the most views of any of his joints andis prettymucht he song that gave him a name.

He jacked the beat for that song from a pretty unknown song by indie NY rapper Necro, who did the beat years ago.

eXquire gave Necro crediton the song.

eXquire Just got singned to Universal, notsolely based on Huzzah but thatobviously being the song that got himout there, eXquire 's people got a check cut for Necro on some homage/respect shyt considering that song helped kickof his career.

This is how it should be done for all the slow kids in here.


You can't explain that to these folks. They think they can do what they want and not have to break a crumb off anything because they "put in all the work." Uh... no. You took someone's work, ran with it, and didn't do anything to recognize the person's work. But hey... just how it is now.
 

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I was listening to some old school while working out and just realized Big Daddy Kane talked about this is "Young, Gifted & Black":

"We sample beats, you sue and try to fight us
Man, you still be home with arthritis
If we didn't revive em, bring back alive Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive
You'd be another memory to us Ashes to ashes and dust to dust
So understand, the way that I live That's positive and the message I got to give
It's a benefit for you and me, I'm talkin' 'bout P.E.A.C.E."

Sounds just like Mac Miller and Lord Finesse except they were selling songs with the beats as opposed to free mixtapes and performing the songs.

Big Daddy Kane - Young, Gifted & Black(go to 1:36)
 
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I was listening to some old school while working out and just realized Big Daddy Kane talked about this is "Young, Gifted & Black":

"We sample beats, you sue and try to fight us
Man, you still be home with arthritis
If we didn't revive em, bring back alive Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive
You'd be another memory to us Ashes to ashes and dust to dust
So understand, the way that I live That's positive and the message I got to give
It's a benefit for you and me, I'm talkin' 'bout P.E.A.C.E."

Sounds just like Mac Miller and Lord Finesse except they were selling songs with the beats as opposed to free mixtapes and performing the songs.

Big Daddy Kane - Young, Gifted & Black(go to 1:36)
Big Daddy Kane - Young, Gifted & Black - YouTube
Damn Kane was a BEAST
 

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I was listening to some old school while working out and just realized Big Daddy Kane talked about this is "Young, Gifted & Black":

"We sample beats, you sue and try to fight us
Man, you still be home with arthritis
If we didn't revive em, bring back alive Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive
You'd be another memory to us Ashes to ashes and dust to dust
So understand, the way that I live That's positive and the message I got to give
It's a benefit for you and me, I'm talkin' 'bout P.E.A.C.E."

Sounds just like Mac Miller and Lord Finesse except they were selling songs with the beats as opposed to free mixtapes and performing the songs.

Big Daddy Kane - Young, Gifted & Black(go to 1:36)
Big Daddy Kane - Young, Gifted & Black - YouTube



man kill that. for longer than anything else, brothers been getting sued and charged with sampling beats. this little dude didnt even do all that he just jacked another previously produced hip hop beat for his own hip hop song. as far as bdks line about

If we didn't revive em, bring back alive Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive

miller ignored finesse and gave no mention OR credit anywhere.

:childplease:
 

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Hmm all the shows that he played his music at? All the festivals he got invited to based of his free music.
And basically all the venues where rappers who sell their music get 90% of their money from (hint: It's not record sales)

I don't know if I agree with it, but that's probably how they see it. If he's profited of it in any way.
Lol if Lord Finesse changes the mixtape game forever :laugh:

They don't want to hear you. Nothing new see the

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Oh and its people in here up in arms about Mac miller using that
Finesse beat..

Same people that had no issue with and were defending
Harry fraud essentially putting his name on that royal flush beat
 

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man kill that. for longer than anything else, brothers been getting sued and charged with sampling beats. this little dude didnt even do all that he just jacked another previously produced hip hop beat for his own hip hop song. as far as bdks line about

If we didn't revive em, bring back alive Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive

miller ignored finesse and gave no mention OR credit anywhere.

:childplease:

They didn't back then either. In fact it was the thing to keep your records a secret. I see you don't know how things went down back then.

BTW, Lord Finesse was and is the man to me but I don't think I agree with how he is doing this because once them crooks, oops I mean lawyers get involved it changes everything. I wish he would of found another route to handle this like go on interviews getting at mac or do a dis record just to get macs attention and then get to do a track on macs album. Once the system gets into our shyt they always fukk it up for us.
 

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"sampling" and "beat making" is not just putting on this record and letting it play

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9-rSrraLY]Lord Finesse - Hip 2 Da Game (Instrumental) (1995) [HQ] - YouTube[/ame]
 

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I wish he would of found another route to handle this

he claims to have asked for his name to be in the video. that didn't happen. he sent a cease-and-desist, they ignored it. what's the next step? handle it in the skreets?
 
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