Look how far Cacs went to claim Kemet

[CriticalThought]

Since they're saying it's coming from Asia....



Let that cook. Keep letting them tell you what black (instead of all the different names) have or have not done.

 

[Poitier]

Since they're saying it's coming from Asia.....

West Asia (not East Asia) and EVERYONE is African if you go back which is a dishonest way to look at the world. Its a much more plausible argument but still false since Egypt was African.

 

[Londilon]

Don't mind them. If I came without Bible references, they would be dapping left and right if used my own opinion.

"Kemet...kemet..they were black...look at the noses and lips" dap dap dap

"Ethiopians got admixture and are not really African...they got smaller noses" dap dap dap

Why don't they just run with what the white man says...that Ethiopians and Ancient Egyptians were nothing more than darker skinned Caucasians according to them

They've been going back and forth about Ancient Egypt...Kemet...Kemet..Kemet brotha but have yet to come to a conclusion. They go and used the white man's whitewashed lies that they created in both Egyptology and language groups and wonder why they are still running around in circles. May the confusion continue....

I've never been confused. All evidence shows that Egypt is black. Everytime a cac comes in and saids its not they only go back what they believe is truth. They never have evidence that doesn't have an agenda behind it.

 

[CriticalThought]

West Asia (not East Asia) and EVERYONE is African if you go back which is a dishonest way to look at the world. Its a much more plausible argument but still false since Egypt was African.

Not dishonest at all. Since people keep postulating where Kemet got it's influence from, let them keep talking and then people will show that Africans were already there. I guess they're gonna have to get very specific about which group influenced them.

 

[Poitier]

Not dishonest at all. Since people keep postulating where Kemet got it's influence from, let them keep talking and then people will show that Africans were already there. I guess they're gonna have to get very specific about which group influenced them.

It is dishonest to say China, Olmecs, Scotland were African.

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

Just because he post from a biblical perspective doesn't mean you should dismiss his theories.
You never know where you can find links that support and better help you understand the information you already have.

his "theories" were just laughably incorrect.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Since they're saying it's coming from Asia....



Let that cook. Keep letting them tell you what black (instead of all the different names) have or have not done.

That's crazy, that Chinese scientist seemed disappointed though.
I remember reading that benefits of melanin are just amazing.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

That's crazy, that Chinese scientist seemed disappointed though.
I remember reading that benefits of melanin are just amazing.

The video is about a Chinese scientist who sought to prove that Chinese people are different from the rest of humans who originated in Africa and failed. It's just reinforcing what everybody already knows to be true, so no, it isn't "crazy" at all.

It's sad that some of you cats try to frame legitimate science within your smart-dumb worldview.

 

[Czar]

Just because he post from a biblical perspective doesn't mean you should dismiss his theories.
You never know where you can find links that support and better help you understand the information you already have.

You REALLY don't know who @Marvel is. (This is gonna be a long message. Read it all)

This is a dude who up until this year was a hard body Tariq Nasheed/Umar Johnson stan, who would blatantly lie about his accomplishments (two supposed masters and a million other degrees in whatever topic he's conveniently arguing ATM lol). Now he's pretending to be a "Hebrew Israelite," even though he's 100% Nigerian and his parents came to this country of their own free will and paid for his education.

Everything he says is parroted from IUIC. IUIC is a Hebrew Israelite camp/cult.

For example, he'll quote Zondervan Compact Bible Dictionary entry on Ham like they do to try and justify the claim that Hamites and "Negroes" are two distinct groups of people, by pointing out how Zondervan calls Ham the progenitor of the dark races, but not the Negroes.

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.

While at the same time failing to realize that Zondervan incorporates the Hamitic Hypothesis in their entry. Ironic considering how much he boasts about his knowledge of history.

What he fails to realize is Zondervan's bible dictionary entry on Ham uses the Hamitic Hypothesis, which is a Eurocentric theory.

For those who are unfamiliar with the Hamitic Hypothesis...

Hamitic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many versions of this perspective on African history have been proposed, and "applied" (via colonialism) to different parts of the continent. The essays below focus on the development of these ideas regarding the peoples of North, East and Southeast Africa. However, Hamitic hypotheses operated in West Africa as well, and they changed greatly over time.

In the mid-19th century, the term Hamitic acquired a new meaning as a few European writers claimed to identify a distinct "Hamitic race" that was superior to "Negroid" populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. The theory arose from early anthropological writers, who linked the stories in the Bible of Ham's sons to actual ancient migrations of a supposed Middle-Eastern sub-group of the Caucasian race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamitic

In the 19th century, as an application of "scientific racism", European authors classified the Hamitic race as a sub-group of the Caucasian race, along with the Semitic race – thus grouping the non-Semitic populations native to North Africa, the Horn of Africa and South Arabia, including the Ancient Egyptians. According to the Hamitic theory this "Hamitic race" was superior to or more advanced than Negroid populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. In its most extreme form, in the writings of C. G. Seligman, it asserted that all significant achievements in African history were the work of "Hamites" who migrated into central Africa as pastoralists, bringing technologies and civilizing skills with them. In the early twentieth century, theoretical models of Hamitic languages and of Hamitic races were intertwined.

Hence why we now see the following (unfortunately)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Caucasian race (also Caucasoid or Europid) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. The term was used in biological anthropology for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone. First introduced in early racial science and anthropometry, the taxon has historically been used to denote one of the proposed major races of humankind. Although its validity and utility is disputed by many anthropologists, Caucasoid as a biological classification remains in use, particularly within the field of forensic anthropology.

Skin color amongst Caucasoids ranges greatly from pale, reddish-white, olive, through to dark brown tones.

Below are two great articles on it.

This is from the Journal of African History Vol 4 (I969), Pages 521-531. Which was published by Cambridge University, and even THEY admit the Hamitic Hypothesis is a destructive tool created by Eurocentrists for the sole purpose of claiming the accomplishment of native Africans. I highly recommend everyone read it.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/w3qukq8ul79amqo/HamticAfrica.pdf

http://cnp.nonuniv.ox.ac.uk/pdf/NP_journal_back_issues/Where_does_Hamite_belong_B_Farelius.pdf

And here's concrete proof Zondervan promotes the HH.

http://books.google.com/books?id=tjWYWz-7NBMC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=Zondervan Ham known to be Caucasian&source=bl&ots=dSMtNu6uBl&sig=Ak2c0N9xjRZaLDtLmcwPBe4QIm4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=pxcPVJnEFYi9ggSt9oDgDg&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Zondervan Ham known to be Caucasian&f=false

Zondervan's NIV Study Bible.

Noah’s curse cannot be used to justify the enslavement of blacks, since most of Ham’s descendants are known to be Caucasian, as the Canaanites certainly were (as shown by ancient paintings of the Canaanites discovered in Egypt).

And this isn't only limited to Zondervan. Other publishers push it too.

Btw, here's Zondervan's entry on Shem (along with two dictionary entries) in case you're curious...

SHEM (shĕm, Heb. shēm, Gr. Sēm, name, fame). This second son of Noah and progenitor of the Semitic race was born ninety-eight years before the Flood (Gen.11.10). He lived six hundred years, outliving his descendants for nine generations (except for Eber and Abraham). In the racial prophecy that Noah made after the episode of his drunkenness (Gen.9.25-Gen.9.27), he mentioned “the Lord, the God of Shem.” The three great monotheistic religions—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—all had Semitic origins. Noah added that Japheth’s descendants would “live in the tents of Shem,” indicating that the Aryan peoples to a large extent have derived their civilization from the Semites. In the “Table of the nations” (Gen.10.1-Gen.10.32)

Notice it doesn't say SHEM: progenitor of the Negroes?


Let's look at the definition of the word Negro

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/negro

Ne·gro
noun \ˈnē-(ˌ)grō\
plural Negroes

Definition of NEGRO
sometimes offensive

: a member of a race of humankind native to Africa and classified according to physical features (as dark skin pigmentation)
— Negro adjective, sometimes offensive
— ne·groid adjective or noun often capitalized sometimes offensive
— Ne·gro·ness noun, sometimes offensive
See Negro defined for English-language learners »
See Negro defined for kids »
Origin of NEGRO
Spanish or Portuguese, from negro black, from Latin nigr-, niger

And African.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/african

Af·ri·can
noun \ˈa-fri-kən also ˈä-\
: a person born, raised, or living in Africa

: a descendant of Africans


Full Definition of AFRICAN
1
: a native or inhabitant of Africa
2
: a person and especially a black person of African ancestry

And I'm not even an Egyptologist.

It's just amazing seeing a dude who claimed to be Pro-Africa or Pan African back in February now blatantly use Eurocentric theories from a "Hebrew Israelite" perspective to troll others....

Back in February:

I am a Pan-Africanist and I believe that each black group with their difference must also be allowed to have their "house" in order on their "own" first.

Back in May (complete 180):

How did they become "Africans" if they are not the descendants of Scipio Africanus?



Why do Bible scholars now admit that all dark skinned people are not children of Ham?

@Kemet_Rocky @KidStranglehold @Poitier and others, I may not agree with y'all on everything (especially concerning the Bible) but I stand firm with y'all against Eurocentricism regardless of who is promoting it.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

The video is about a Chinese scientist who sought to prove that Chinese people are different from the rest of humans who originated in Africa and failed. It's just reinforcing what everybody already knows to be true, so no, it isn't "crazy" at all.

It's sad that some of you cats try to frame legitimate science within your smart-dumb worldview.

lol I meant crazy as in good not bad.

Go back and read my post. I spent the last couple of pages arguing FOR this very thing.

 

[Czar]

I've never been confused. All evidence shows that Egypt is black. Everytime a cac comes in and saids its not they only go back what they believe is truth. They never have evidence that doesn't have an agenda behind it.

Breh, do not waste your time going back and forth with @Marvel

Read my comment so you can understand why it is a fruitless debate.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/look-how-far-cacs-went-to-claim-kemet.251055/page-20#post-10203195

 

[GetInTheTruck]

lol I meant crazy as in good not bad.

You act like I can't see your other posts in this thread, if you knew better your response to dude who posted that vid would be what I just said to you.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

lol I meant crazy as in good not bad.

You act like I can't see your other posts in this thread, if you knew better your response to dude who posted that vid would be what I just said to you.

Nikka, I spent the last couple of pages arguing FOR not AGAINST this very topic...Much of the people on the board did not agree.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Nikka, I spent the last couple of pages arguing FOR not AGAINST this very topic...Much of the people on the board did not agree.

you're using junk science to do so though, which isn't even necessary.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Nikka, I spent the last couple of pages arguing FOR not AGAINST this very topic...Much of the people on the board did not agree.

you're using junk science to do so though, which isn't even necessary.

You need to go back and read, what posted was not JUNK science they were from legit sources that are also current. ( meaning I could use them in academia.)
I was arguing that much of the genetic markers( light skin, dark skin, varied hair color, varied eye color etc) all have origins in Africa.
You need to go back and read because your trying argue with the premise your standing for. If your arguing against what I'm saying then you don't believe much of the genetic markers come from Africa.