LL Cool J ''THE FORCE'' Discussion Thread

[NormanConnors]

Just looked at the credits, it was an em q tip co production, you know what it means right ?


Em's unability to rhyme other black sample base music like jazz or soul is to be studied. It's no coincidence he never spat on dj premier's joint

Not true at all, study history and get your ears checked.

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

Not true at all, study history and get your ears checked.

Have you heard em on j dilla type of production, like ever ?

 

[DeuceZ]

There is a great article on LL in the NY Times... I'll prolly cop the album for the love. I need love was prolly the first hip hop song I ever heard

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Have you heard em on j dilla type of production, like ever ?

I'm the furthest thing from the biggest Eminem fan but this take on him is ridiculous

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

I'm the furthest thing from the biggest Eminem fan but this take on him is ridiculous

That's not a soul beat

 

[Bleed The Freak]

That's not a soul beat

He's been out for 25 years and I'm not saying y'all need to love his music or anything but suddenly suggesting he can't rap over a Premo-like beat is ridiculous. It's just your expectations of what you want to hear from him. He does his thing. It is what it is

He could do it in his sleep. Not everyone gets the chance for various reasons to work together.

He's never worked with

Treach
KRS (not including The Anthem)
Kool G Rap (Anthem as well)
Kane
Up until last year Nas

And I'm far from an Eminem Stan. Pacino didn't (and I'm not calling Eminem Pacino) didn't work with Scorsese until 2019. Shyt happens

 

[TripleAgent]

I like the pocket LL found on this one. Good listen.

It's SO good to hear a legacy MC not rapping over some slow, plodding bullshyt and displaying energy. LL is one of the most vocally and technically talented MCs ever.

 

[SunZoo]

Agree. Em ruined this song completely. Would've been waaay better if he toned it down like he did on Death of Slim Shady.

I don't think he ruined it at all, but this song in partiuclar is 2-3 years old at this point.

LL said he did like 40 songs with Dre before he pivoted to working with Q-Tip. Said beats were fire but he didn't like what he was writing over them.

 

[ArchStanton]

LL is signing an insert for copies live tonight:

 

[Bleed The Freak]

He may not be the greatest rapper ever

But he has had, without question, the greatest career

And it's really not close

 

[mundL]

the way LL opens this shyt up is mindblowing

Might be my favorite delivery of the year aside from Renaissance by Em who doesnt impress me on this one

 

[Formerly known as...]

Single with Eminem is real dope. Looking forward to this project.

 

[ADP]

The fact that LL went in this bag with the flow after all these years is very impressive

Album might be a banger

 

[ArchStanton]

Man, I can't wait to hear what LL, Nas, and Q-Tip have cooked up.

 

[Malcy86]

Album is great, Q-Tip is on-point with the production and some decent features as well. Black Code Suite, Runit Back & Praise Him my favourites from first listen.