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Zimmerman is most likely going to be acquitted.

1.) The only eyewitness who was close enough to the fight to positively ID Trayvon and George Zimmerman with no doubt stated that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman with his arms in downward motions. He also stated that Zimmerman was the one yelling for help.

2.) Forensic evidence proved without doubt that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot.

3.) Rachel Jeantele’s testimony proved that Trayvon initiated the confrontation by approaching Zimmerman. She couldn’t even say for sure who said ‘get off get off’.... She also stated that Trayvon was by his house after he’d ran from Zimmerman. Now if he were by his house, why would he have ended up back where he died unless he intentionally went back? That’s what Rachel said. Even so, I don’t know if I can believe even a word of what this woman said.

4.) Trayvon’s body was left in the rain for 3 hours before it was taken away. Plenty of time for DNA to have washed away in the rain.

5.) Trayvon Martin’s clothing was mishandled by being placed in a plastic bag. The ME stated that whoever would do something like that would be fired. Yet another way DNA could have been lost, but nonetheless, Zimmerman’s blood was still found on Trayvon’s clothing.

6.) Trayvon Martin had abrasions on his left hand, consistent with punching someone.

7.) The ME who stated that Zimmerman’s injuries were only consistent with one blow later admitted it could’ve been more than one, up to a dozen in fact. That was her testimony. She was clearly biased in favor of the prosecution since she seemed so intent on selling her opinion that the injuries were insignificant even when not asked.

8.) Trayvon Martin’s DNA nor prints were found on the gun? Great, yet another win of Zimmerman’s account because he only ever claimed that Trayvon reached for the gun, he never claimed to be sure that Trayvon had actually touched it or grabbed the gun.

9.) Every eyewitness who claimed to have seen Zimmerman on top of Trayvon later admitted that they couldn’t see shyt. One even admitted that she let the media influence her opinion of who the aggressor was.

10.) There are no blows to Trayvon’s body consistent with Zimmerman being the person on top.

11.) The prosecution has brought forth nothing that proves Zimmerman approached Trayvon.

12.) Zimmerman’s law professor confirmed what I’ve been saying all along. That one need not be in the brink of death before being able to defend oneself. The fact that Zimmerman’s injuries were insignificant is actually pretty irrelevant to the case legally. How is a person supposed to judge that he’s taken enough damage, that he’d then be okay to defend himself? John Good told Trayvon to stop, but he didn’t. Trayvon kept attacking Zimmerman and so Zimmerman defended himself. In fact, a person doesn’t need to have any injuries at all for lawful self defense to occur. The fact that he has any injuries at all further solidifies his story.

13.) The prosecution has failed to prove that Zimmerman acted with any malice or depraved mind.

14.) The prosecution has failed to show that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense.

15.) The prosecution has failed to show that Zimmerman actually continued following Trayvon after he was told not to.

16.) George Zimmerman knew the Stand Your Ground law as the Castle Doctrine when he took Captain Carter’s class, so when he said he hadn’t heard about Stand Your Ground, it was most likely not a lie. Stand Your Ground is really just a nickname for the law that didn’t get national attention until the Zimmerman case started receiving national attention.

17.) Sybrina Fulton’s testimony is not reliable at all. Yes, the FBI voice expert stated that a relative would be more likely to identify the voice in the recording, but he also stated that the best method for that type of identification would be on a solo basis. Meaning that only one person should listen to the recording at a time. When Sybrina listened to it for the first time, the room was full of people who all badly wanted it to be Trayvon. Even so, her testimony never should’ve been admitted as it was merely her own opinion. As a grieving mother, you have to believe as Mark O’mara stated, that she does not want to believe that Trayvon could’ve done anything to cause his own death. Unfortunately all the evidence shows otherwise.

18.) The lead investigator who actually wanted to try Zimmerman for manslaughter admitted that he believed Zimmerman’s story was true. So to did the other cop who interviewed him.

19.) At one point during his interview, Serino lied to George Zimmerman and told him that the entire incident was caught on tape. Zimmerman replied saying he was happy that it was recorded (not exact quote). Does that sound like someone with something to hide?

20.) Zimmerman’s story has stayed consistent throughout the many times that he’s told it. There were some minor inconsistencies (bushes or from the darkness blah blah blah) which the original investigators noticed, but passed off as insignificant. These, they said were the type of inconsistencies that you WOULD EXPECT to see. If a story was airtight and completely perfect in every way every single time that you told it, then there would be more reason to be suspicious than if it had minor inconsistencies over the many times you’ve told it.

21.) The ME who worked on Trayvon’s corpse first stated that Trayvon could not have moved after he was shot, then later admitted that he could move but didn’t know how much. Another one clearly biased in favor of the prosecution.

22.) Zimmerman was an MMA fighter? Well the person on the stand now said he never even stepped into the ring. He was no fighter...

You don’t have to take my word for it, view the evidence for yourself. Or if you want to hear it from the mouth of a Trayvon supporter, here ya go. From ABC News: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why - ABC News

Now that I’ve seen the prosecution’s case, its clear why Zimmerman was not charged in the first place. There simply was nothing to disprove Zimmerman’s account and the only reason he was charged was because of the media lynching.


Just think of why the outrage began.

1.) The police just let Zimmie walk free without even an investigation (that's been proven wrong) There was a proper investigation and it concluded that there just was no evidence to charge with even manslaughter.

2.) George Zimmerman was an obese, racist white man with a very violent past (that's been proven wrong)

3.) Trayvon was a 13 year old saint who Zimmerman chased and shot down in cold blood (that's been proven wrong)

The media reported these things as if they were facts...

All the things that people were originally angry about were wrong. Had they known the facts, would this have blown up like this?

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nothing you posted justifies Zimmerman shooting Trayvon

following someone, then starting a confrontation and getting your ass kicked doesn't justify shooting them

you also don't understand the law.......when a defendants asserts self-defense, the burden is on him to prove it......not the prosecution to prove it wasn't self-defense

Zimmerman followed Martin with a gun, racially profiling him and calling him a fukking punk that always get away. He then shot him. That right there is enough to prove 2nd degree murder. If the defense is claiming self-defense, then its on them to prove that Zimmerman was about to be killed which is why he shot Trayvon.

There has been NO EVIDENCE to suggest Zimmerman was near death. He was just getting his ass kicked. And no, the law doesn't give you the right to shoot someone because you suck at fighting. You can only use deadly force if you fear deadly force will be used against you. And the fists of a 150lb 17 year old are not deadly force.
 

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you guys are crazy if you think that dude is walking. he basically convicted himself.
 

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Speculation. You don't know if Zimmerman actually confronted Trayvon.

You're completely ignoring the fact that Trayvon was beating him and that's why he got shot.

Okya, you obviously 1. Did NOT read my post and 2. Have not been paying close attention to the trial.

Zimmerman did not need to be near death to practice self-defense.

The prosecution's job is to prove their theory beyond a reasonable doubt. How many times has that been stated? So far, they're not even close to being close.



You're just guessing. The fists of a 150 pound 17 year old can be deadly if you don't stop them from hitting you.

you expect me to believe that shyt? :mjpls: @ this point, it's NOT speculation. zimmerman KNEW what he was doing. no matter which way you flip it, he was the aggressor. if you are going to follow somebody around when they're running away from you, approach them when you were told NOT to, and on top of that, you're armed with a gun, mma fighting skills and know the law, and go about trying to cover your ass to get away with murder, YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING FROM THE JUMP.

george zimmerman needs to be thrown under the prison or get double life. fukk him, he's the lowest of the low. you can't go out there shooting and hurting people because you think they're up to no good. godforbid he was a police officer. he would be terrible and i wouldn't feel safe with that son of a bytch in a badge.

would you want this guy to be a cop for your community? just looking @ george zimmerman, how could anybody even root for the son of a bytch. if you root for him, you're rooting for any cold blooded killer on the street.
 
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Zimmerman is most likely going to be acquitted.

1.) The only eyewitness who was close enough to the fight to positively ID Trayvon and George Zimmerman with no doubt stated that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman with his arms in downward motions. He also stated that Zimmerman was the one yelling for help.

2.) Forensic evidence proved without doubt that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot.

3.) Rachel Jeantele’s testimony proved that Trayvon initiated the confrontation by approaching Zimmerman. She couldn’t even say for sure who said ‘get off get off’.... She also stated that Trayvon was by his house after he’d ran from Zimmerman. Now if he were by his house, why would he have ended up back where he died unless he intentionally went back? That’s what Rachel said. Even so, I don’t know if I can believe even a word of what this woman said.

4.) Trayvon’s body was left in the rain for 3 hours before it was taken away. Plenty of time for DNA to have washed away in the rain.

5.) Trayvon Martin’s clothing was mishandled by being placed in a plastic bag. The ME stated that whoever would do something like that would be fired. Yet another way DNA could have been lost, but nonetheless, Zimmerman’s blood was still found on Trayvon’s clothing.

6.) Trayvon Martin had abrasions on his left hand, consistent with punching someone.

7.) The ME who stated that Zimmerman’s injuries were only consistent with one blow later admitted it could’ve been more than one, up to a dozen in fact. That was her testimony. She was clearly biased in favor of the prosecution since she seemed so intent on selling her opinion that the injuries were insignificant even when not asked.

8.) Trayvon Martin’s DNA nor prints were found on the gun? Great, yet another win of Zimmerman’s account because he only ever claimed that Trayvon reached for the gun, he never claimed to be sure that Trayvon had actually touched it or grabbed the gun.

9.) Every eyewitness who claimed to have seen Zimmerman on top of Trayvon later admitted that they couldn’t see shyt. One even admitted that she let the media influence her opinion of who the aggressor was.

10.) There are no blows to Trayvon’s body consistent with Zimmerman being the person on top.

11.) The prosecution has brought forth nothing that proves Zimmerman approached Trayvon.

12.) Zimmerman’s law professor confirmed what I’ve been saying all along. That one need not be in the brink of death before being able to defend oneself. The fact that Zimmerman’s injuries were insignificant is actually pretty irrelevant to the case legally. How is a person supposed to judge that he’s taken enough damage, that he’d then be okay to defend himself? John Good told Trayvon to stop, but he didn’t. Trayvon kept attacking Zimmerman and so Zimmerman defended himself. In fact, a person doesn’t need to have any injuries at all for lawful self defense to occur. The fact that he has any injuries at all further solidifies his story.

13.) The prosecution has failed to prove that Zimmerman acted with any malice or depraved mind.

14.) The prosecution has failed to show that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense.

15.) The prosecution has failed to show that Zimmerman actually continued following Trayvon after he was told not to.

16.) George Zimmerman knew the Stand Your Ground law as the Castle Doctrine when he took Captain Carter’s class, so when he said he hadn’t heard about Stand Your Ground, it was most likely not a lie. Stand Your Ground is really just a nickname for the law that didn’t get national attention until the Zimmerman case started receiving national attention.

17.) Sybrina Fulton’s testimony is not reliable at all. Yes, the FBI voice expert stated that a relative would be more likely to identify the voice in the recording, but he also stated that the best method for that type of identification would be on a solo basis. Meaning that only one person should listen to the recording at a time. When Sybrina listened to it for the first time, the room was full of people who all badly wanted it to be Trayvon. Even so, her testimony never should’ve been admitted as it was merely her own opinion. As a grieving mother, you have to believe as Mark O’mara stated, that she does not want to believe that Trayvon could’ve done anything to cause his own death. Unfortunately all the evidence shows otherwise.

18.) The lead investigator who actually wanted to try Zimmerman for manslaughter admitted that he believed Zimmerman’s story was true. So to did the other cop who interviewed him.

19.) At one point during his interview, Serino lied to George Zimmerman and told him that the entire incident was caught on tape. Zimmerman replied saying he was happy that it was recorded (not exact quote). Does that sound like someone with something to hide?

20.) Zimmerman’s story has stayed consistent throughout the many times that he’s told it. There were some minor inconsistencies (bushes or from the darkness blah blah blah) which the original investigators noticed, but passed off as insignificant. These, they said were the type of inconsistencies that you WOULD EXPECT to see. If a story was airtight and completely perfect in every way every single time that you told it, then there would be more reason to be suspicious than if it had minor inconsistencies over the many times you’ve told it.

21.) The ME who worked on Trayvon’s corpse first stated that Trayvon could not have moved after he was shot, then later admitted that he could move but didn’t know how much. Another one clearly biased in favor of the prosecution.

22.) Zimmerman was an MMA fighter? Well the person on the stand now said he never even stepped into the ring. He was no fighter...

You don’t have to take my word for it, view the evidence for yourself. Or if you want to hear it from the mouth of a Trayvon supporter, here ya go. From ABC News: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why - ABC News

Now that I’ve seen the prosecution’s case, its clear why Zimmerman was not charged in the first place. There simply was nothing to disprove Zimmerman’s account and the only reason he was charged was because of the media lynching.


Just think of why the outrage began.

1.) The police just let Zimmie walk free without even an investigation (that's been proven wrong) There was a proper investigation and it concluded that there just was no evidence to charge with even manslaughter.

2.) George Zimmerman was an obese, racist white man with a very violent past (that's been proven wrong)

3.) Trayvon was a 13 year old saint who Zimmerman chased and shot down in cold blood (that's been proven wrong)

The media reported these things as if they were facts...

All the things that people were originally angry about were wrong. Had they known the facts, would this have blown up like this?

Quite a few of your points are incorrect and Zimmerman's story has changed multiple times. Have you bothered to read Zimmerman's statement and then watch the reenactment? Do you have any explanation as to how Trayvon's body ended up 55 feet from where he supposedly threw the punch? It's convenient how Zimmerman supporters choose to accept certain things and totally ignore the things that prove that he is lying.
 

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So Zimmerman has all these people swearing up and down it's him screaming on the tape, but trayvons own pops says its not hid sons voice? And some of y'all really thing Zimmerman is gonna get convicted? Not happening.

But these people can't hear you though...emotion has crowded their logic
 
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:stopitslime:

nothing you posted justifies Zimmerman shooting Trayvon

following someone, then starting a confrontation and getting your ass kicked doesn't justify shooting them

you also don't understand the law.......when a defendants asserts self-defense, the burden is on him to prove it......not the prosecution to prove it wasn't self-defense

Zimmerman followed Martin with a gun, racially profiling him and calling him a fukking punk that always get away. He then shot him. That right there is enough to prove 2nd degree murder. If the defense is claiming self-defense, then its on them to prove that Zimmerman was about to be killed which is why he shot Trayvon.

There has been NO EVIDENCE to suggest Zimmerman was near death. He was just getting his ass kicked. And no, the law doesn't give you the right to shoot someone because you suck at fighting. You can only use deadly force if you fear deadly force will be used against you. And the fists of a 150lb 17 year old are not deadly force.

The bolded part is another point that Zimmerman supporters choose to ignore. All of his friends describe him as the second coming of Christ, yet the language
he used on his 911 call proves that he had ill will and a depraved mind. Let's not mention the fact that he even admitted to following him.
 
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Speculation. You don't know if Zimmerman actually confronted Trayvon.

You're completely ignoring the fact that Trayvon was beating him and that's why he got shot.

Okya, you obviously 1. Did NOT read my post and 2. Have not been paying close attention to the trial.

Zimmerman did not need to be near death to practice self-defense.

The prosecution's job is to prove their theory beyond a reasonable doubt. How many times has that been stated? So far, they're not even close to being close.

You're just guessing. The fists of a 150 pound 17 year old can be deadly if you don't stop them from hitting you.

No. You are the one who is speculating. Why do you believe Zimmerman that he stopped following Martin? Why do you believe Zimmerman that it was Martin that started the confrontation? All the facts we know are 100% true don't support this view.

Zimmerman is on the phone saying he's the one following Martin. Rachel Jeantel confirmed this. Zimmerman also confirms it when he says "he running". Then he starts running after him. The dispatcher tells him to stop. He says OK. But how do we know he stopped?

You have a grown man with a loaded weapon vs. a 17 year old kid trying to get back home during a dark rainy night. You tell me which one is more likely? Trayvon stopped running, turned back around, and then started a fight with Zimmerman OR Zimmerman continued following Trayvon and started the confrontation because he wanted to be a cop and stop a black thug in his neighborhood?

I don't think its reasonable to believe that the kid running away from some stranger following him in the night would turn back around and start the confrontation. Its far more likely that what happened was what was already happening. Which is that the wannabe cop kept following Trayvon and started the confrontation.
 

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So basically that fighting coach witness was there so they could position Zimmerman as a total p*ssy who can't defend himself and thus was right to feel threatened for his life by a physical altercation?

Fukk the people pretenfing Zimmerman is a fat harmless guy. This fukk had a gun to compensate. I hope the jury sees through that soft shyt. Zimmerman is not an innocent bystander getting beat down. Dude was the instigator and intimidator.
 
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The bolded part is another point that Zimmerman supporters choose to ignore. All of his friends describe him as the second coming of Christ, yet the language
he used on his 911 call proves that he had ill will and a depraved mind. Let's not mention the fact that he even admitted to following him.

That right there to me is the key to the whole case and why I don't believe this lying cac. He racially profiles a random black kid, calls him a fukking punk, then follows him with a loaded pistol. I'm sorry but that right there is the end of the case for me.

You can't start following someone with a loaded gun when you aren't a cop, shoot them, and then claim self-defense cause you suck at fighting. :shaq2:

Even if I took his word that Trayvon threw the first punch and was kicking his ass, that doesn't justify killing him. You can only meet deadly force with deadly force. And the medical examiners have already disputed his story that he was one breathe away from imminent death. The guy at worst got punched a couple of times and hit his head on the concrete once. I wouldn't be surprised if he fell on the concrete rather than Trayvon smashing his dead up against.

I bet he pulled a gun on Trayvon trying to be a cop. Trayvon thought he was some thug trying to rob him and a struggle ensued. Trayvon was prolly fighting for his life and the cac shot him in the chest. I find it hard to believe that a kid who was running away a few seconds ago would all of sudden turn into some cold-blooded killer.

Zimmerman has spun a tale and hopefully the jury doesn't fall for it and gives the cac life in prison.
 
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