Lil Cease On Biggie Taunting 2Pac In Jay-Z’s Dead Presidents Video By Saying “Who Shot Ya”

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Perception is everything. Me and u both been around long enough to know that. If my man’s got shot and I know he feeling a way. Been ignoring his calls n all that. My first thought ain’t gonna be to release a song called Who Shot Ya. Before we even get a discussion on some man to man shyt. Come on fam. Add to the fact the streets felt it. The jails felt it. His peers felt it. shyt basically kinda blew up off the controversy. shyt was a bad move no matter how u slice it. In the least. That’s not how u do ur friend if u really wanna make shyt right. My biggest takeaway was Pac looked at Biggie as a friend and Biggie looked at Pac as more an associate.

You know I agree with you on that but when Pac was told to his face by Nickels & E Money Bags, it should've been a dead issue; song or not. That visit changes everything. If he's listening & taking nikkas words as gospel in jail over Nickels & Bags, then he was never really theirs or Big's friend bro. He knew who got at him at the Quad & why. For him to come back home & act like he didn't know what happened & blaming Big in the media & running with the Who Shot Ya was about him was completely disingenuous to say to the least
 

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No that’s a fair statement you made … bigge deffo wasn’t this jolly fat nikka who was innocent in all this but as far who started putting smut on his name first that was all pac …and the foul shyt is he knew big wasn’t involved or had any knowledge… bottom line pac wanted to make him robbery/shooting bigger then what it was to save face … when in reality all it was was a rapper who thought he could disrespect a legit gangster and got disciplined for it ….

This is a very fair statement as well. I have no issues.
 

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You know I agree with you on that but when Pac was told to his face by Nickels & E Money Bags, it should've been a dead issue; song or not. That visit changes everything. If he's listening & taking nikkas words as gospel in jail over Nickels & Bags, then he was never really theirs or Big's friend bro. He knew who got at him at the Quad & why. For him to come back home & act like he didn't know what happened & blaming Big in the media & running with the Who Shot Ya was about him was completely disingenuous to say to the least
Yeh that’s my biggest issue with pac aswell …. he knew what was up n ran with a lie after he got out ….. What I wonder @Knicksman20 is what e money bags n Nickels opinion was about pac after they told him that n he got out of prison running with that nonsense after they told him what it was I wonder if there opinion changed on pac ….
 

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I see cease just got asked the question on art the dialogue if biggie ever used southside Compton crips as muscle out west ….
Cease said they had they own bodyguards separate from puffy that is true but … at the vibe party keffe Dee , gene deal n them said keffe Dee came to
Biggie first n he dapped him up , and on Greg kading murder rap lol cease voice can be heard saying he knows and has seen keffe Dee around badboy …. Sounds like another lie in so many words …
 

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I see cease just got asked the question on art the dialogue if biggie ever used southside Compton crips as muscle out west ….
Cease said they had they own bodyguards separate from puffy that is true but … at the vibe party keffe Dee , gene deal n them said keffe Dee came to
Biggie first n he dapped him up , and on Greg kading murder rap lol cease voice can be heard saying he knows and has seen keffe Dee around badboy …. Sounds like another lie in so many words …
They been lying for years. But y’all only point fingers at Pac. Wonder why? Lol.
 

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They been lying for years. But y’all only point fingers at Pac. Wonder why? Lol.
Spliz I told u my only issue with pac as far as Lying goes is quad saving face ….. I already agreed cease has been lying this whole art the dialogue interview it’s making him look funny …
 

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But you forgot the biggest part that pac fabricated …. He was told to his face while in prison by real street nikkas badboy knew nothing about him been set -up n robbed no prior knowledge no nothing yet he stilll ran with that narrative when he got out of prison …so yes pac was fabricating a lie by doing that ….
Bad boy knew nothing but big was trying to warn pac a week before it happened. Which one is it?
 

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Again if you were shot and your friend puts out that song, after being in the same building that same night…you would feel a type of way about it.
It wasn’t like the shyt was released the next week. It was a few months after the shooting. BIGGIE MAKES VIOLENT MUSIC.

when should Biggie/Bad boy put this song out?

2pac already made his mind up to dis bad boy.

so y’all pretty much saying Big should never released this song ever. Because anytime after that shooting y’all gon considered it a dis to Pac
 

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It doesn't matter which side you are on or which side you took, it is still in poor taste to release a song like "Who Shot Ya" after a highly publicized shooting one of your peers. They may not have been friends at this point, but still poor taste. Even if he recorded it before the shooting, it's poor taste. You can't go out here and make Pac look like a paranoid maniac because you just released a song called "Who Shot Ya". That automatically made people think he had something to do with the shooting even if he didn't.
 

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It wasn’t like the shyt was released the next week. It was a few months after the shooting. BIGGIE MAKES VIOLENT MUSIC.

when should Biggie/Bad boy put this song out?

2pac already made his mind up to dis bad boy.

so y’all pretty much saying Big should never released this song ever. Because anytime after that shooting y’all gon considered it a dis to Pac

They could've released the song with a different title and removed the "who shot ya" line. Still a classic song.
 

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Bad boy knew nothing but big was trying to warn pac a week before it happened. Which one is it?
He said watch them nikkas … as did Mike Tyson n others cause big n Mike Tyson knew the type of cats jack , Jimmy etc were … that’s a heads up to a friend …pacs hardheaded ass didn’t listen …
 
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