Lil B vs Chief Keef vs Lil Wayne: Who Was The Most Influential Rapper Of The 2010s?

[ISO]

listen to any rap music outside of the U.S. and you'll realize its Keef.
Listen to NYC rap now...thats Keef

shyt...just look at rap videos the past few years...
...thats all Keef.

No it isn’t. Nobody in NYC raps like Keef and Keef wasn’t the only drill rapper.

If we being real Herb has more influence on the modern NY sound because the DJ L style of drill beat is the backbone of the production and you can hear Herb in the deliveries of rappers like Envy Caine and early Desiigner.

Then you got Durk who influenced all the young melodic nikkas out the city along with A-Boogie. U can hear their influence in rappers like Lil Tjay, J.I., Stunna Gambino, Jay Gwuapo, etc.

Keef as usual gets way more credit than he deserves and everyone else in the drill movement gets forgotten.

And that’s not to say Keef isn’t influential but damn nikkas drag it.

 

[JustCKing]

Drake is one person is my point.

I wasn't giving wayne credit for that, I'm saying future perfected the shyt Wayne was aiming for. Not the other 2. My point was it's future, that's why I mentioned him the very next post. But you can't credit future without crediting wayne.

It's not only Drake, there's Childish Gambino as well. 808's was Kid Cudi's breakthrough.

You can't credit Wayne for autotune without crediting T Pain. And Future perfecting what Wayne was going for is all opinion.

 

[ISO]

And people want to claim Keef as the most influential. LOL, watch Waka's "O Let's Do It" and "Hard In Da Paint" videos, that whole energy came from that. Also Flockaveli is a huge reason why Trap is omnipresent. Even had EDM hopping on it to create EDM trap.

This is a fact Waka and Soulja could also be in the discussion.

Keef gets more credit than he deserves his impact was mostly aesthetic to me.

 

[Finesse]

This is a fact Waka and Soulja could also be in the discussion. Keef

Keef gets more credit than he deserves his impact was mostly aesthetic to me.

Keef's impact is definitely a real thing. He impacted the game twice. He impacted the hood with the drill shyt.

Then he impacted the internet rappers when he went on his underground mixtape run after he got dropped from Interscope.

This was a very impactful tape to the Uzi's, Carti's, Yachty's and Lucki's of the world. From the style of beats he rapped on, the drugged out stutter flow, adlibs all that shyt.

To the point where they openly wear their admiration for it on their sleeve

Which is ironic cause in reality Keef pretty much just mixed Lil B and Tune's shyt with his Gucci inspiration and added his own spin to it and added the chicago element to it which is why caught on fire to numerous demographics.

 

[Chris Cool]

It's not only Drake, there's Childish Gambino as well. 808's was Kid Cudi's breakthrough.

You can't credit Wayne for autotune without crediting T Pain. And Future perfecting what Wayne was going for is all opinion.

What t-pain was doing is different from others. You keep failing to differentiate that. Nobody was trying to sound like t pain. Future was doing this own thing, but it's not far off from the shyt Wayne was doing. Future sounds nothing like t pain.

 

[The G.O.D II]

I don’t care if you don’t listen to the pretty bytch. Based God has influenced Ab-libs, flows, etc. TYBG

 

[JustCKing]

What t-pain was doing is different from others. You keep failing to differentiate that. Nobody was trying to sound like t pain. Future was doing this own thing, but it's not far off from the shyt Wayne was doing. Future sounds nothing like t pain.

No it wasn't. You can't differentiate because both Wayne and Future have songs where they aren't only rappin but singing in autotune. Not different from what T Pain was doing. And be honest, had T Pain not been successful with it, no one else would've been doing it. He was THE face of autotune.

Again, you're still harping on this idea that one has to sound like the other. Like I said, ya'll don't understand how influence works.

 

[noumena]

Who said he invented autotune?

Drake did more than just like 808's, a lot of 40's work with Drake is directly influenced by 808's.

And again, ya'll have no clue about influence when you are basing it off how many clones are produced by one artist vs another.

Don't play dumb bro you know everyone acts like 808s was this revolutionary piece of work that fathered the autotune in hip hop thing.

Clones is the tell tale sign of influence! That's how I know Lex Luger and southside and Zay is the father of this shyt because everyone copied them!

 

[noumena]

trap would've been a thing of the past without flockiaveli.

Matter of fact, people hardly ever mention waka flocka and lex luger when it comes to these discussions.

Like Waka did not have the streets on lock in 09-2010.

I mean where do you think uk drill came from?

Uk drill literally based its sound off of one producer from chicago (two if you count dj kenn) but they act like they invented that shyt.

Elaborate on this. I thought drill style beats originated with grime. Like Dizee Rascal

 

[JustCKing]

Don't play dumb bro you know everyone acts like 808s was this revolutionary piece of work that fathered the autotune in hip hop thing.

Clones is the tell tale sign of influence! That's how I know Lex Luger and southside and Zay is the father of this shyt because everyone copied them!

But those of us in the know understand that 808's didn't "father" autotune.

Clones is one aspect of influence. It isn't the end all, be all. Influence in its totality is to alter, shift, or change something.

 

[How Sway?]

very true. uk added dubstep/dance type bass too it. but the core signature "hi hat drill" rhythm was already there.

Yeah that portamento dub bass That was also in a lot of old grime tracks.

But thats it.

Elaborate on this. I thought drill style beats originated with grime. Like Dizee Rascal

nope

Facts

The booth been extremely quiet about NYC Drill Rap Wave

DJ L is known for his hard-hitting, rapid-fire snare drum loops and ominous soundscapes that not only helped further define the sound of Drill music but modern day rap as well. The producer's sound was influenced by his marching band days, trap music and Chicago footwork.

“Like Bibby used to always say when he heard my beats: 'I need the footwork sound.' That influenced me as well as playing the drums because I was in the Bud Billiken parade four times doing the band sh*t,” he explains. “It was a mix between those two sounds and the trap sound. It was the trap Atlanta sound, and two Chicago sounds, the house music, juke sh*t and the marching band, drumline sh*t. That’s why [some of] my sh*t sounds like its clashing because I’m trying to get all three of my elements in. I want the kick and the feeling of the trap with the drums from the drumline --- and then you go into the feeling and the pace of the juke music.

 

[NormanConnors]

From that list probably Lil B. Breh was ahead of his time as far as overall sound

 

[NormanConnors]

Hell, I remember folks calling Keef B's protege at one point. As others have said, Lil B has heavily influenced many of these modern rappers. Those denying it simply has either never listened to him past his troll shyt or not even at all.

Facts

 

[jilla82]

No it isn’t. Nobody in NYC raps like Keef and Keef wasn’t the only drill rapper.

If we being real Herb has more influence on the modern NY sound because the DJ L style of drill beat is the backbone of the production and you can hear Herb in the deliveries of rappers like Envy Caine and early Desiigner.

Then you got Durk who influenced all the young melodic nikkas out the city along with A-Boogie. U can hear their influence in rappers like Lil Tjay, J.I., Stunna Gambino, Jay Gwuapo, etc.

Keef as usual gets way more credit than he deserves and everyone else in the drill movement gets forgotten.

And that’s not to say Keef isn’t influential but damn nikkas drag it.

stop...im in Chicago.
im around these kids.

 

[Chris Cool]

No it wasn't. You can't differentiate because both Wayne and Future have songs where they aren't only rappin but singing in autotune. Not different from what T Pain was doing. And be honest, had T Pain not been successful with it, no one else would've been doing it. He was THE face of autotune.

Again, you're still harping on this idea that one has to sound like the other. Like I said, ya'll don't understand how influence works.

You're whole argument is based on doing some shyt first. T-pain wasn't even a factor when future took off, and straight up said future was using autotune wrong. But whatever breh. t-pain the most influential artist of the 2010s. You win.