Lil B vs Chief Keef vs Lil Wayne: Who Was The Most Influential Rapper Of The 2010s?

[Cadillac]

listen to any rap music outside of the U.S. and you'll realize its Keef.
Listen to NYC rap now...thats Keef

shyt...just look at rap videos the past few years...
...thats all Keef.

facto

my initital thought was wayne

but then i began to think how rap is from acts domestically like Pop, to overseas. Like those italians that was posted here

And almost all, is linked back to keef and his influence

Keef def has a case to be the winner here

 

[Bondye Vodou]

All dem nikkas is Wayne derivatives.

 

[JustCKing]

Naw people always try to credit Kanye with the emotional autotune shyt, but really that's some 3000, love below shyt.

Nobody was doing Kanye and T-pain style autotune in the 10s. It's that future style that was expanded on from Wayne was doing.

Andre 3000 wasn't autotuned for the most part. And again, it wasn't the autotune that defined a lot of what 808's was influential for. You completely ignored its influence on Drake.

Breh, Kanye, Wayne, nor Future would be doing autotune if it wasn't for T Pain. Ya'll had a whole thread on Future vs. T Pain. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Chris Cool]

Andre 3000 wasn't autotuned for the most part. And again, it wasn't the autotune that defined a lot of what 808's was influential for. You completely ignored its influence on Drake.

Breh, Kanye, Wayne, nor Future would be doing autotune if it wasn't for T Pain. Ya'll had a whole thread on Future vs. T Pain. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I never said the auto tune was Dre, I'm talking the singing shyt, forget i even mentioned that.

i don't even know why you keep trying to bring up drake, that shyt is irrelevant. The thread is 2010s, not who influenced a drake album.

You're bringing up shyt that I'm not even arguing. Everybody knows t pain got autotune popping. Was he a factor in the 10s? We're not talking about who was first. Nobody was trying to sound like him and you know that shyt. Or maybe you don't and your just talking out your ass again.

 

[Chris Cool]

Also Future not getting enough mentions in here.

 

[JustCKing]

I never said the auto tune was Dre, I'm talking the singing shyt, forget i even mentioned that.

i don't even know why you keep trying to bring up drake, that shyt is irrelevant. The thread is 2010s, not who influenced a drake album.

You're bringing up shyt that I'm not even arguing. Everybody knows t pain got autotune popping. Was he a factor in the 10s? We're not talking about who was first. Nobody was trying to sound like him and you know that shyt. Or maybe you don't and your just talking out your ass again.

Drake was the biggest rapper of last decade though and he acknowledged 808's as an influence even beyond So Far Gone.

As far as autotune, how can you discredit Kanye and T-Pain, but credit Wayne for autotune in the 2010's, when his influence for autotune was around the same time T Pain and Kanye was having success with it (2008). Now if you'd just stuck with Future, I'd see your point given he impacted on the 2010's.

And again, influence is bigger than having people trying to sound like you. A person could be influential without anyone trying to emulate them. Inspiration does not always breed imitation.

 

[noumena]

Drill is not a genre. Lil Wayne definitely fathered a lot of new rappers, as did Lil b. I never really got the big deal about Keef so it's hard for me to say exactly what he did. He's always been a very subpar rapper to me and "Chicago drill" isn't even a genre as far as I'm concerned. Everyone just copied Lex Luger and drummaboi and southside among others and it's all trap to me. Pop Smokes "NY"Drill is more influenced by U.K. Drill than anything seeing as how it uses the same rhythms. Just because it's called "drill" doesn't mean Chief Keef fathered it. As for fashion and slang I'll give Keef that, even though people still to this day say shyt Lil B said.

 

[noumena]

Oh and Kanyes influence on this decade is completely overstated and overrated. I don't care how many video essays people put out about 808s, Kanye didn't invent autotune and being sad. T-pain was a pioneer with that and then Lil Wayne followed suit. Being sad as a rapper was also more of Cudis thing which ended up being his main line of influence, not even his beats or way of rapping. Just because Drake liked 808s means nothing to me, I don't see a lot of Drake influence these days either. There's a lot more Waynes Keefs and Lil Bs than Kanyes or Drakes. And notice how Flockavelli has a sound that changed the entire landscape of music IN GENERAL and MBDTF didn't. At all.

 

[JustCKing]

Everyone just copied Lex Luger and drummaboi and southside among others and it's all trap to me.

This.

As I was saying Drill was birthed by Trap and that whole sound in 2010 broke through via Flockaveli and Ross's Teflon Don (or even the Albert Anastasia mixtape). After those dropped everybody was trying to rap over trap beats. That sound influenced Chop and from there Drill was born.

 

[JustCKing]

Oh and Kanyes influence on this decade is completely overstated and overrated. I don't care how many video essays people put out about 808s, Kanye didn't invent autotune and being sad. T-pain was a pioneer with that and then Lil Wayne followed suit. Being sad as a rapper was also more of Cudis thing which ended up being his main line of influence, not even his beats or way of rapping. Just because Drake liked 808s means nothing to me, I don't see a lot of Drake influence these days either. There's a lot more Waynes Keefs and Lil Bs than Kanyes or Drakes. And notice how Flockavelli has a sound that changed the entire landscape of music IN GENERAL and MBDTF didn't. At all.

Who said he invented autotune?

Drake did more than just like 808's, a lot of 40's work with Drake is directly influenced by 808's.

And again, ya'll have no clue about influence when you are basing it off how many clones are produced by one artist vs another.

 

[Chris Cool]

Drake was the biggest rapper of last decade though and he acknowledged 808's as an influence even beyond So Far Gone.

As far as autotune, how can you discredit Kanye and T-Pain, but credit Wayne for autotune in the 2010's, when his influence for autotune was around the same time T Pain and Kanye was having success with it (2008). Now if you'd just stuck with Future, I'd see your point given he impacted on the 2010's.

And again, influence is bigger than having people trying to sound like you. A person could be influential without anyone trying to emulate them. Inspiration does not always breed imitation.

Drake is one person is my point.

I wasn't giving wayne credit for that, I'm saying future perfected the shyt Wayne was aiming for. Not the other 2. My point was it's future, that's why I mentioned him the very next post. But you can't credit future without crediting wayne.

 

[How Sway?]

And people want to claim Keef as the most influential. LOL, watch Waka's "O Let's Do It" and "Hard In Da Paint" videos, that whole energy came from that. Also Flockaveli is a huge reason why Trap is omnipresent. Even had EDM hopping on it to create EDM trap.

trap would've been a thing of the past without flockiaveli.

Matter of fact, people hardly ever mention waka flocka and lex luger when it comes to these discussions.

Like Waka did not have the streets on lock in 09-2010.

Drill is not a genre. Lil Wayne definitely fathered a lot of new rappers, as did Lil b. I never really got the big deal about Keef so it's hard for me to say exactly what he did. He's always been a very subpar rapper to me and "Chicago drill" isn't even a genre as far as I'm concerned. Everyone just copied Lex Luger and drummaboi and southside among others and it's all trap to me. Pop Smokes "NY"Drill is more influenced by U.K. Drill than anything seeing as how it uses the same rhythms. Just because it's called "drill" doesn't mean Chief Keef fathered it. As for fashion and slang I'll give Keef that, even though people still to this day say shyt Lil B said.

I mean where do you think uk drill came from?

Uk drill literally based its sound off of one producer from chicago (two if you count dj kenn) but they act like they invented that shyt.

 

[Axum Ezana]

trap would've been a thing of the past without flockiaveli.

Matter of fact, people hardly ever mention waka flocka and lex luger when it comes to these discussions.

Like Waka did not have the streets on lock in 09-2010.

I mean where do you think uk drill came from?

Uk drill literally based its sound off of one producer from chicago (two if you count dj kenn) but they act like they invented that shyt.

very true. uk added dubstep/dance type bass too it. but the core signature "hi hat drill" rhythm was already there.

 

[mbewane]

Just came in to say #TYBG

 

[ISO]

Chief Keef is the most influential rapper of this generation. Nikka created an entire genre

He didn’t create drill lol.