whats wrong with the wars we've had in the eyes of libertarianism?
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this question, could you elaborate?
Libertarians - The Great White Hope
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Things are unequal now.
1% of the population controls most of the wealth, and those same 1%ers make up most if not all of the members of our Congress, Supreme Court, Executive branch, and other powerful positions in our government both federal and state. Libertarians are about weakening our 1% owned government and giving it back to individuals.
We don't need government, just common sense.
Democratic government created and sustained Jim Crow. The seed of Jim Crow was sown in Boston of all places (Roberts v. Boston), and upheld by the Supreme Court (Plessy v. Fergusson).
You don't actually believe this, do you? FDR prolonged the depression. Obama has prolonged the Great Recession.
A stimulation and a transfer of wealth are two different things. A transfer of wealth has occurred during this current recession. Our money has ended up in the pockets of the 1% who, as stated above, compromise the majority of not the entirety of our Congress, Supreme Court, Executive branch and other powerful levels of government both at the federal and state levels. And that's where libertarians come on, to take the power away from the 1% owned Congress and give it back to the people.
and this statement alone is why I think you all live in a fukking bubble.
why don't you just advocate for taking (reducing) money out of politics?
mbewane
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Mr. Somebody
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The 1 percent control 40 percent of the Worlds wealth. I think the issue you're talking about is a lot bigger then America. Also, what you're talking about is a war to reset the nation so a new group of individuals can escape men they will ultimately become and i dont see how that benefits the Average American. Just a different set of millionares becoming the 1 percent. If history shows us anything its that things go in circles. But friend, please explain how libertarians would give power back to the people. Can you make that statement a little more tangible?Things are unequal now.
1% of the population controls most of the wealth, and those same 1%ers make up most if not all of the members of our Congress, Supreme Court, Executive branch, and other powerful positions in our government both federal and state. Libertarians are about weakening our 1% owned government and giving it back to individuals.
We don't need government, just common sense.
Democratic government created and sustained Jim Crow. The seed of Jim Crow was sown in Boston of all places (Roberts v. Boston), and upheld by the Supreme Court (Plessy v. Fergusson).
You don't actually believe this, do you? FDR prolonged the depression. Obama has prolonged the Great Recession.
A stimulation and a transfer of wealth are two different things. A transfer of wealth has occurred during this current recession. Our money has ended up in the pockets of the 1% who, as stated above, compromise the majority of not the entirety of our Congress, Supreme Court, Executive branch and other powerful levels of government both at the federal and state levels. And that's where libertarians come on, to take the power away from the 1% owned Congress and give it back to the people.
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Do you trust libertarians to not harken back to a day when inequality ran rampant. Do you trust humanity at this stage in our development to not need government?
WHen you think about it, it was the government that has had to intervene on behalf of all oppressed people because human beings, left to their own devices clique up and spread demonic filth.
After the civil war, who had to tell the south to treat friends equally - the government
What did the south do after the government promised to stop meddling in their affairs - institute Jim Crow
Who had to pass multiple civil rights legislation - the government
Who had to send troops to walk friends of African Descent to schools just to protect them from demons - the government
Who made it so that you could marry any woman you wanted - the government
Whos legislation brought women closer to equality - the government
Whos programs stimulate the economy when the private sector crashes and burns - the government.
Whos providing better health care to Americans - the government
Whos programs feed homeless people and those on hard times - the government
I think there is a balance here. The government should make sure equality and fair businesses practices are spread throughout the land and make sure that all states are in compliance, at the minimum.
I think we can /thread now
Not sure why we are making the jump from economic to social issues(which liberals and libertarians agree on for the most part).But if you are just throwing it out there that they have some unsavory social policies, I agree.
How has the power been taken from the people?
Its seems to me that we just don't have enough people that care.
Mr. Somebody
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Can i get something a little more tangible? Educate a friend.How has the power been taken from the people?
Its seems to me that we just don't have enough people that care.
Long story short, they have been unjust and not in our best interest.
I'm kind of shocked, I dont run into too many supporters for perpetual war...
Your asking how can we restore something that hasn't been taken away... it simply isn't being wielded.
"we the people" have been mind f*cked into believing we have no power(which im sure the responses will show).
Without getting crazy(not yet at least), utilizing the recall vote would go a long way towards shaping better public servants.
Obviously an end to corporatism, subsidies, and 4th amendment violations etc.
The pressure is really on "the people" 
If history show us anything its that, this will end violently with an uprising if not dealt with... and these people with "no power" as you put it will end up murdering those in charge.
If history show us anything its that, this will end violently with an uprising if not dealt with... and these people with "no power" as you put it will end up murdering those in charge.
The pressure is really on "the people"
If history show us anything its that, this will end violently with an uprising if not dealt with... and these people with "no power" as you put it will end up murdering those in charge.
Perhaps, but we're a LONG way from that.
mbewane
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But if you are just throwing it out there that they have some unsavory social policies, I agree.
The question asked was "Which government is the wealthiest with the most people above poverty with the least amount of government intrusion." and you answered Singapore, while it's quite easy to see that there is tons of government intrusion/intervention in BOTH economical and social issues there. It doesn't make much sense to use Singapore as an example.
who said I supported it?Long story short, they have been unjust and not in our best interest.
I'm kind of shocked, I dont run into too many supporters for perpetual war...
Why do you have to invoke "libertarianism" in this argument about foreign policy?
I don't know ANY wars that are "just"...but wars happen, so whats your reason for invoking the "L" word into this?
The government intrusion is an acceptable trade off for the economic freedom they offer(second only to Hong Kong).
There is no actual solution/answer. Its about making the best trade off possible. Singapore has had periods of full employment... let that sink in. Full employment with an average of below 2% unemployment.
add that to an annual surplus, and some govt. intrusion is more than an acceptable cost.