Lets Talk African History: The Moors. Who Were They?

Jammer22

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Yes true, but like I said it was called "Moorish Spain" for a reason. Many of the government officials there were Moors. The Umayyads gave the Moors to "manage" Al-Andalus.
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Breh, say more...
I'd heard that the arabs were a very tiny elite with moorish muscle, don't really hear this on sites like AH.com tho. They usually the badguys and now I'm starting to see why, especially with the Caliph's c00ning they asses off.:mjpls:

Heard they was looking like this before long...

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This is a passage from "News from New England", page 18. This was around the 1500s. Here is the link: News from New-England, being a true and last account of the present bloody wars carried on betwixt the infidels, natives and the English Christians, and converted Indians of New England, declaring the many dreadful battles fought betwixt them: as also the many towns and villages burnt by the merciless heathens. And also the true number of all Christians slain since the beginning of that war, as it was sent over by a factor of New England to a merchant in London

18 NEWS FROM NEW-ENGLAND.

in revenging his death, for, on the Sixth of May, they burnt
all Malborow, except three Garrison houses, kill'd Capt.
Jacobson and Lieutenant Pra, and two days after burnt 24
houses in Southbury, kill'd several of the inhabitants who
vainly expected Capt. Wedworth and Capt. Brookwel* to
their Relief for these unfortunate Gentlemen were inter-
cepted by 700 Moors, with whom they fought for the space
of 4 hours, till not only they two, but Capt. Sharp and 51
Christians more lay dead upon the place.

At Woodcocks 10 miles from Seconch, on the 16th May
was a little Skirmage betwixt the Moors and Christians,
wherein there was of the later three slain and two wounded,
and only two Indians Kild.
 

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:ohhh:

Breh, say more...
I'd heard that the arabs were a very tiny elite with moorish muscle, don't really hear this on sites like AH.com tho. They usually the badguys and now I'm starting to see why, especially with the Caliph's c00ning they asses off.:mjpls:

Heard they was looking like this before long...

:hhh::hubie:


Like I said the Arabs mainly let the Moors "manage' Iberia.
 

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Nah. The invasion was led by Berbers. Arabs then came later based on the source I posted.

I wish the Berbers was pulling the strings secretly after the gov't came tho. Like some shogun type stuff:jawalrus:.

Yeah, the governor and them Arabs being able to come over later like shyt was sweet AND get the top jobs and best lands got me.... :gucci:

:mindblown:

Come on Moorish brehs...:why:
 

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I wish the Berbers was pulling the strings secretly after the gov't came.

Yeah, the governor and them Arabs being able to come over later like shyt was sweet AND get the top jobs and best lands got me.... :gucci:

:mindblown:

Come on Moorish brehs...:why:

Like I said the were the majority foreigners in Iberia and were government officals. Looking for that source I remember reading.

Also lets not forget(which everyone seems to forget) that the Almoravids and Almohads were complete Moorish kingdoms that had zero to do with Arabs.
 

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Like I said the were the majority foreigners in Iberia and were government officals. Looking for that source I remember reading.

Also lets not forget(which everyone seems to forget) that the Almoravids and Almohads were complete Moorish kingdoms that had zero to do with Arabs.

Fair enough.

:ehh:

Didn't know Almohads and Almoravids completely sidelined the Arabs at that point tho. I feel better now.
 

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Another interesting source I found comparing the Moors with West Africans:

"The Moors here are perfectly black; the only personal distinction between them and the Negroes being, that the Moors had long black hair, and had no scars on their faces. The Negroes are in general marked in the same manner as those of Tombuctoo." - The narrative of Robert Adams: an American sailor, who was wrecked on the western coast of Africa, in the year 1810, was detained three years in slavery by the Arabs of the Great Desert, and resided several months in the City of Tombuctoo. With a map, notes and an appendix (1817).
 

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Another interesting source I found comparing the Moors with West Africans:

"The Moors here are perfectly black; the only personal distinction between them and the Negroes being, that the Moors had long black hair, and had no scars on their faces. The Negroes are in general marked in the same manner as those of Tombuctoo." - The narrative of Robert Adams: an American sailor, who was wrecked on the western coast of Africa, in the year 1810, was detained three years in slavery by the Arabs of the Great Desert, and resided several months in the City of Tombuctoo. With a map, notes and an appendix (1817).

I find that interesting since Berbers and many West African groups BOTH practice tribal marking, it was something that always seemed to reflect the close cultural relations to me.

Perhaps the Moors of that time stopped practicing that since it is against Islamic principle :yeshrug:
 
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