Lets Talk African History:"Sahel" West African Civilizations

[Bawon Samedi]

During the ebola stuff my aunt actually made a remedy that "cured" people who took it. I use cure loosely because peoples symptoms went away but I won't go out and say it's something official that completely fixed the problem.

This is actually very true. My sister who has a friend who is Liberian and has been to Liberia said a lady used her own house to treat people with ebola. Just look at how quickly the DRC solved their ebola along with Nigeria and others. I don't know what happened with Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea but my guess is that the people were dependent on the western doctors. Not trying to make it out this simple.

This is why I get offended when people call African Sciences "witchcraft". African Sciences produced medicine that were meant for good but could be used for evil the same way we see with pharmaceuticals in the states.

The Haitians did that very same thing during the early period of the slave rebellion. And no its definitely NOT "witchcraft." Because this "witchcraft" was far more advanced than medicine in medieval Europe and even the 19th century.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This is actually very true. My sister who has a friend who is Liberian and has been to Liberia said a lady used her own house to treat people with ebola. Just look at how quickly the DRC solved their ebola along with Nigeria and others. I don't know what happened with Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea but my guess is that the people were dependent on the western doctors. Not trying to make it out this simple.



The Haitians did that very same thing during the early period of the slave rebellion. And no its definitely NOT "witchcraft." Because this "witchcraft" was far more advanced than medicine in medieval Europe and even the 19th century.

My pops said the Ebola thing was sort of over blown because he actually traveled there around the time the stuff happened (I think shortly after it finished).

Like I really wonder how Africa would have been if the events of history didn't happen that destroyed it.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

My pops said the Ebola thing was sort of over blown because he actually traveled there around the time the stuff happened (I think shortly after it finished).

Hell I kinda over blew it too myself.

Like I really wonder how Africa would have been if the events of history didn't happen that destroyed it.

Like the slave trade and colonization? If so I say Africans would have needed to industrialize to stay on pace with the Europeans.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

As promised I said I was going to cite good info from this book I just purchased for this thread. Anyways, here is one bit of info that I found very good that all should read.


Walker, Robin. Blacks and Science Volume Two: West and East African Contributions to Science and Technology AND Intellectual Life and Legacy of Timbuktu. London: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013. Print.

West Africans were really an ingenious people... And we still see it today. If only black folk can tap into the scientific side of our ancestry more like we already did with our artistic side.


@MansaMusa @CashmereEsquire @Don Drogo @Poitier @Karbaash @Premeditated

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/25518798/

@Jammer22 you too may find this piece interesting.

 

[Losttribe]

West African Mosque > The Great Pyramids...from an aesthetics/architecture POV.

Can you elaborate on this?

 

[Losttribe]

FUKK EGYPT!!!!!​

Why do you say this?

 

[Losttribe]

What's interesting is that in the fifteenth century, it was said that there were five great Caliphs of the muslim world: The Caliph of Constantinople, The Caliph of Egypt, The Caliph of Baghdad, The Caliph of Bornu, and the Caliph of the Sudan(that is Mali/Songhai)

When you say Sudan... it seem 3k miles from Mali... But then you say Sudan (mali). ?

 

[BigMan]

When you say Sudan... it seem 3k miles from Mali... But then you say Sudan (mali). ?

Sudan (region) - Wikipedia
Learn cac

 

[Sinnerman]

When you say Sudan... it seem 3k miles from Mali... But then you say Sudan (mali). ?

In those days, the Muslim writers used the name "The Sudan" to refer to the lands of the blacks

 

[Sinnerman]

I can only imagine what kind of knowledge is in those books that formed the libraries of timbuktu

 

[Apollo Creed]

I can only imagine what kind of knowledge is in those books that formed the libraries of timbuktu

hell imagine what oral knowledge was disrupted and lost.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

@CashmereEsquire I'm starting to believe that the people of Western Sudan(Mali, Mauritania, Senegal,etc) did not get their non-Islamic knowledge solely from the Islamic sphere of influence during the Middle Ages, but instead the "sciences" that were already being practiced in West Africa. I believe Western Sudanese people also got their knowledge of astronomy NOT from the Islamic sphere of influence but instead the Dogon people! I have some interesting shyt I'm about to post about them soon...

I can only imagine what kind of knowledge is in those books that formed the libraries of timbuktu

shyt like THIS!

Mahmud Kati, a Songhai historian, mentions the use of locally manufactured soap. A surviving sixteenth century Timbuktu manuscript has a formula for making toothpaste and adds that regular brushing of your teeth removes bad breath. Other surviving manuscripts deal with chemistry, traditional medicines and pharmacopoeia.
Moreover, Professor Diop shows how the West Africans organized medical practice at that time: 'Empirical medicine was quite developed in Africa.... a family practice a single branch of medicine on an hereditary basis. One was specialized in the eyes, the stomach, and so on.'

Walker, Robin. Blacks and Science Volume Two: West and East African Contributions to Science and Technology AND Intellectual Life and Legacy of Timbuktu. London: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013. Print.

Will be posting MORE from the book. Very excellent read...

 

[Apollo Creed]

@CashmereEsquire I'm starting to believe that the people of Western Sudan(Mali, Mauritania, Senegal,etc) did not get their non-Islamic knowledge solely from the Islamic sphere of influence during the Middle Ages, but instead the "sciences" that were already being practiced in West Africa. I believe Western Sudanese people also got their knowledge of astronomy NOT from the Islamic sphere of influence but instead the Dogon people! I have some interesting shyt I'm about to post about them soon...


shyt like THIS!


Walker, Robin. Blacks and Science Volume Two: West and East African Contributions to Science and Technology AND Intellectual Life and Legacy of Timbuktu. London: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013. Print.

Will be posting MORE from the book. Very excellent read...

I mean my tribe alone had knowledge and concepts of things that have nothing to do with Islam. I can't speak for a tribe like the Mandingo/Mandinka though who till this day is known as a Muslim Tribe. If anything Islam was just an addition to peoples lives opposed to the thing that Civilized West Africans.

I feel it ties into the theories about the stories about in Abrahamic text being about us. I feel if in particular Mande people had no commonality with these things it would be rather difficult for us to pick up these religions how we did being that there would be no concepts in our cultures that correlate with these text to be able to translate it to us.

I think this is why we are able to tie in traditional spiritual systems with abrahamic religions because these stories and traditions were ours to begin with and simply b*stardized by outsiders.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I mean my tribe alone had knowledge and concepts of things that have nothing to do with Islam. I can't speak for a tribe like the Mandingo/Mandinka though who till this day is known as a Muslim Tribe. If anything Islam was just an addition to peoples lives opposed to the thing that Civilized West Africans.

Of course not! Like I shown in this thread civilization in West Africa(Tichitt Walata) predates Islam in West Africa. Hell Ancient Ghana predated Islam in West Africa.

I feel it ties into the theories about the stories about in Abrahamic text being about us. I feel if in particular Mande people had no commonality with these things it would be rather difficult for us to pick up these religions how we did being that there would be no concepts in our cultures that correlate with these text to be able to translate it to us.

I think this is why we are able to tie in traditional spiritual systems with abrahamic religions because these stories and traditions were ours to begin with and simply b*stardized by outsiders.

Interesting.

 

[LoStranger]

Of course not! Like I shown in this thread civilization in West Africa(Tichitt Walata) predates Islam in West Africa. Hell Ancient Ghana predated Islam in West Africa.

Don't forget Ancient Djenné-Djenno

Djenné-Djenno - Wikipedia