Let's talk about the NOI/FOI.

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Ignore the facts. lol.

The facts are there in Malcolm's own words. You just can't come in here and accept NOI Malcolm as the true form and ignore everything that happened post NOI. The man's life was heavily documented by his own words and there is plenty of video evidence to go along with it. They tried to kill the man's children. It's right there in the video in his own words.
 

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all of these ghetto black cults are garbage.

NOI, black hebrews, 5 percenter, ansari, etc.

all of these cults spawned out from each other by con men who took advantage of people ignorance of real islam or judaism or any other religion and twisted them into some cult-like misguidance.

have to be a serious loser to still be involved with these clowns in an age of information.

the ignorance :ohlawd:

but it's interesting you bring up the information age when people are becoming more ignorant today than in the times nations like the NOI/Nation of Gods and Earths were founded.

Also don't talk about other groups with little to no knowledge or understanding of said groups. thx

One more thing, gtfo with that "real" shyt. These "real" religions are doing nothing but fight each other and give power to the unseen. These nations/groups are about the uplifting for a group of people who these "true" religions failed to help. Yet, here you are trying to shyt on them because you're either 1. White or 2. White in black skin. Which are you?
 

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Ignore the facts. lol.

The facts are there in Malcolm's own words. You just can't come in here and accept NOI Malcolm as the true form and ignore everything that happened post NOI. The man's life was heavily documented by his own words and there is plenty of video evidence to go along with it. They tried to kill the man's children. It's right there in the video in his own words.
most of what we know love and respect about Malcolm was noi version of X. people act like he completely changed after he left. Naw- he was the same radical.... he would talk about 'all that other shyt' but in his life and actions... he was the same dude w the same crew of former noi, with the same militant pro blackness and all that shyt. NTM, all the videos of that ether, for the most part was NOI X. the marches and movements and the motivating of the masses were NOI X. the post noi x was targeted and threatened by the NOI... but people like to ignore the informants and gov agency who pulled the trigger. With beef there are harsh words.. rappers, baller, nikkas on the block, inmates, black groups.. it's the same. It's not like Malcolm wasn't saying words. It's not like he didn't threaten people. Where do people think the FOI got their ways and their gansta???? - X taught that and created that culture...

We're gonna embrace revisionist history and pretend like X didn't ride hard against traitors of the NOI.. act like he didn't invent that Do not talk to that muthfacka type of behavior. That's just as foolish as believing that he 'just found out' about all the fukkery and smashing that Elijah was doing. X and all ministers knew all along. And of course Louis X was gonna be the most out spoken.... they were like brothers the betrayal hurt that dude the most.. Boston, NYC, all looked up to X. They weren't gonna kill him. The NOI doesn't have a history of having problems getting rid of people. the leadership said naw don't do it. The informants went ahead and did it because the climate was rip.

Just like we don't know what X would have turned into had he lived.... we don't know if he would have became cool w the nOI again. More than likely he would have. He made up with MLK, and the NOI made up with former sons and members before. Farrakhan loved X and would have gotten over that shyt. X was shot while things were hot so we ignore the history of these types of situations.

X's crew at the end still were cool with some NOI members. The real reason X was on the media campaign was because he was lost n hurt, and anyone would be if you feel like the man who saved you from prison, drugs, prostitution, and death ex-communicated you for being too radical when they taught you how to be radical.

Oh yeah and betty Shabazz is dead cuz of all this. People got into her daughters head and she attempted to body the Minister and was jailed and her son had to live w betty and that eventually killed Betty. We find out that it was confirmed agents that planted that fukkery in his daughters head.

^ all fact.


also, in my opinion... if it was real beef like that.... X wouldn't have given multiple speeches with NOI members in the crowd. Also, he would have noi members (former ) in his crew. Also Ali probably would have knocked his ass out when they spoke,; Ali was a lil more down than most members.
Next thing we're gonna e-say is that the Black Panthers broke up over some p*ssy.
 

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most of what we know love and respect about Malcolm was noi version of X. people act like he completely changed after he left. Naw- he was the same radical.... he would talk about 'all that other shyt' but in his life and actions... he was the same dude w the same crew of former noi, with the same militant pro blackness and all that shyt. NTM, all the videos of that ether, for the most part was NOI X. the marches and movements and the motivating of the masses were NOI X. the post noi x was targeted and threatened by the NOI... but people like to ignore the informants and gov agency who pulled the trigger. With beef there are harsh words.. rappers, baller, nikkas on the block, inmates, black groups.. it's the same. It's not like Malcolm wasn't saying words. It's not like he didn't threaten people. Where do people think the FOI got their ways and their gansta???? - X taught that and created that culture...

We're gonna embrace revisionist history and pretend like X didn't ride hard against traitors of the NOI.. act like he didn't invent that Do not talk to that muthfacka type of behavior. That's just as foolish as believing that he 'just found out' about all the fukkery and smashing that Elijah was doing. X and all ministers knew all along. And of course Louis X was gonna be the most out spoken.... they were like brothers the betrayal hurt that dude the most.. Boston, NYC, all looked up to X. They weren't gonna kill him. The NOI doesn't have a history of having problems getting rid of people. the leadership said naw don't do it. The informants went ahead and did it because the climate was rip.

Just like we don't know what X would have turned into had he lived.... we don't know if he would have became cool w the nOI again. More than likely he would have. He made up with MLK, and the NOI made up with former sons and members before. Farrakhan loved X and would have gotten over that shyt. X was shot while things were hot so we ignore the history of these types of situations.

X's crew at the end still were cool with some NOI members. The real reason X was on the media campaign was because he was lost n hurt, and anyone would be if you feel like the man who saved you from prison, drugs, prostitution, and death ex-communicated you for being too radical when they taught you how to be radical.

Oh yeah and betty Shabazz is dead cuz of all this. People got into her daughters head and she attempted to body the Minister and was jailed and her son had to live w betty and that eventually killed Betty. We find out that it was confirmed agents that planted that fukkery in his daughters head.

^ all fact.


also, in my opinion... if it was real beef like that.... X wouldn't have given multiple speeches with NOI members in the crowd. Also, he would have noi members (former ) in his crew. Also Ali probably would have knocked his ass out when they spoke,; Ali was a lil more down than most members.
Next thing we're gonna e-say is that the Black Panthers broke up over some p*ssy.


I understand that you're a cult member and that cult members are ride or die for their cults, but what you said above is absolute garbage. It proves my point exactly.

The man's own words are out there. Documented in writing and by video. The only one practicing revisionist history is you. Don't act like there aren't Farrakhan videos out there where he is essentially bragging about taking part in the man's death.

Just stop it.
 

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I understand that you're a cult member and that cult members are ride or die for their cults, but what you said above is absolute garbage. It proves my point exactly.

The man's own words are out there. Documented in writing and by video. The only one practicing revisionist history is you. Don't act like there aren't Farrakhan videos out there where he is essentially bragging about taking part in the man's death.

Just stop it.
Farrakhan did have something to do with X's death, in the sense that he acted like X was a traitor.. never denied that.

I don't think they are a cult. Cult just means a religious group that is considered weird, offensive, and very extreme by larger society. Usually they involve weird sexual practices, or talking to the dead, centered around things dealing with children or forcing members to live in groups, etc and shyt like that. The Noi is only a cult in the sense that it's views aren't acceptable by mainstream standards - but considering the mainstream is fubar they should be happy with that definition.


But you shouldn't assume amigo..... I'm not a 'cult member', I'm not even a believer in all of their religious beliefs, not a part of any organized religion, I don't even like some of their history, including the beef w X stuff - but I'm just saying we know how he died Amigo. We also know who put X's daughter up to killing Farrakhan.
 

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:leostare:I meant in comparison to what we normally think of... when we say cult. Most cults aren't out here trying to better communities and teach self reliance n shyt. I'm not saying that a lil green animal w no tail, that is sitting on lily pads and eating flies isn't a frog.
 

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Most cults aren't out here trying to better communities and teach self reliance n shyt.
CULTS ALWAYS MAKE SIMILAR CLAIMS ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES AND INTENTIONS, BROTHER! CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING, DUDE? DO YOU BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A FLYING SAUCER, MEAN GENE?
 

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CULTS ALWAYS MAKE SIMILAR CLAIMS ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES AND INTENTIONS, BROTHER! CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING, DUDE? DO YOU BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A FLYING SAUCER, MEAN GENE?
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Yeah I know.... but many senior military officials including navy and air force pilots believe that flying saucers exist - if they do then who knows what they've seen. Plus Nas has seen a spaceship in the syline in LA in daytime. and we all know Horse would not lie.

and yeah I refuse to answer that question out of respect...
 
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