Let's talk about the NOI/FOI.

[Broke Wave]

Islam did not start 1400 years ago and does not belong to arabs or muslims. Islam is the natural way of life for all people which is mathematics. Everybody uses math everyday but few know the order and live it. Traditional muslims foundation is based on belief which is a weak foundation and is the complete opposite of the real foundation, knowledge. That's why the so called "real people of islam" is having so many problems, not just against other religions but within their own party. They rely on that which does not exist instead of themselves, where the real power to make change is. I'm NOT noi but two things we agree on. There is no mystery god, and the god which does exists, is the original man.

peace

I think you misread me a lil bro. I got literally zero problem, like negative zero problem with people who are NOI or believe that philosophy. I just don't understand what you mean, or they mean by Islam? Islam means submission... submission to the one creator god which is grounded in a external theism not an internal theism. I'm just confused by how they can read the Quran and come to the conclusions they've come to, based on what they've read. I wouldn't have this discussion anywhere but online though, I really respect Nation people and 5%er's and people like that and I don't like arguing about disagreements, it's always better to build on agreements.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

I think you misread me a lil bro. I got literally zero problem, like negative zero problem with people who are NOI or believe that philosophy. I just don't understand what you mean, or they mean by Islam? Islam means submission... submission to the one creator god which is grounded in a external theism not an internal theism. I'm just confused by how they can read the Quran and come to the conclusions they've come to, based on what they've read. I wouldn't have this discussion anywhere but online though, I really respect Nation people and 5%er's and people like that and I don't like arguing about disagreements, it's always better to build on agreements.

Just twisted it to fit their agenda. Just like how slave masters used the bible to justify slavery.

I think the biggest appeal for blk ppl to join the nation was that it was a movement that brought pride, unity, and strength for blk ppl. It was one of the first times blk ppl ever heard it. Blks were always told how no good they were and you finally hear something talking positively about blk ppl. That's a tough attraction...

It's the same story with pretty much all or most religions. Meaning how could someone actually believe in that...Adam and eve. Noah's ark, etc.

I think most ppl want some kind of meaning or are searching for something in life that makes them feel better

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Just twisted it to fit their agenda. Just like how slave masters used the bible to justify slavery.

I think the biggest appeal for blk ppl to join the nation was that it was a movement that brought pride, unity, and strength for blk ppl. It was one of the first times blk ppl ever heard it. Blks were always told how no good they were and you finally hear something talking positively about blk ppl. That's a tough attraction...

It's the same story with pretty much all or most religions. Meaning how could someone actually believe in that...Adam and eve. Noah's ark, etc.

I think most ppl want some kind of meaning or are searching for something in life that makes them feel better

you make it sound like a cult

 

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Are you fascinated when you look in the mirror?

Aren't we all?

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

you make it sound like a cult

That's pretty much how every religion starts out. With a few followers....like a cult

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Just twisted it to fit their agenda. Just like how slave masters used the bible to justify slavery.

I think the biggest appeal for blk ppl to join the nation was that it was a movement that brought pride, unity, and strength for blk ppl. It was one of the first times blk ppl ever heard it. Blks were always told how no good they were and you finally hear something talking positively about blk ppl. That's a tough attraction...

It's the same story with pretty much all or most religions. Meaning how could someone actually believe in that...Adam and eve. Noah's ark, etc.

I think most ppl want some kind of meaning or are searching for something in life that makes them feel better

Every religion starts out with mythology and an enemy to make a people feel good about themselves which gives them a sense of divine purpose in the world to keep them motivated toward a specific goal, friend.

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

I think you misread me a lil bro. I got literally zero problem, like negative zero problem with people who are NOI or believe that philosophy. I just don't understand what you mean, or they mean by Islam? Islam means submission... submission to the one creator god which is grounded in a external theism not an internal theism. I'm just confused by how they can read the Quran and come to the conclusions they've come to, based on what they've read. I wouldn't have this discussion anywhere but online though, I really respect Nation people and 5%er's and people like that and I don't like arguing about disagreements, it's always better to build on agreements.

Islam is Peace, and peace is the absence of confusion. 1+2=3. There's no confusion when dealing with math. The confusion comes when people take man made religion and make it their foundation instead of the universal laws. The nation of islam is a religion because they act on somebody else's knowledge on face value. Or in other words they put 2 before 1. This ultimately creates a misunderstanding. The proper order of math is knowledge then wisdom(which is to act) or 1 and then 2.

The nation of islam's main teachings is the supreme wisdom. Which is a series of questions by WD Fard and answers by Elijah Muhammad based on his understanding of 104 books that Elijah read. Also included in the supreme wisdom are actual facts which basically describes the earth in depth

The NOI reads the quran because they are muslims but in all reality they don't limit themselves to one book. As previously stated, Elijah read 104 books, not just the quran. People who limit themselves to one book is like someone who's never been outside their own state. Putting themselves inside a box. The universe is vast, it has no beginning nor ending, so you can't even really touch it with 1 book

peace

 

[Crakface]

It really doesnt matter whats in the quran because the unity of islam like Christianity is as deep as your ethnic background. They talk all that brotherhood community shyt but when it gets real they're going to look out for the people in their ethnic group first and your black ass talkin all that asalama lakum ish is going to get laughed at. Dont believe me, as a black muslim go date an arab muslims daughter. Even if shes as brown as you, you damn near might get that chick honor killed for associating with you. .