Lets Talk About The Moral Basis of Capitalism

[Truth200]

Basically this. Capitalism could be moral, if those at the top didn't feel the need to hold on to as much money as possible. Walmart, McDonalds etc, HAVE the money to pay their workers more money but they choose not to. You know how much they want for yachts nowadays?

Let me explain why i just gave you positive rep.

Everything you said is facts which prove why capitalism has no moral basis.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static

^This list is the end result of capitalism.

 

[OsO]

I thought I would see someone prove the case that these systems are amoral, but

I didn't see that.​

We have examples in history of "moral" capitalism (I put moral in quotes because that term in itself is subjective) which proves Capitalism is a mechanical system and can be used for good or evil.

When communities of blacks opened their own businesses in response to segregation, that was capitalism. The community economics that goes on in Chinatown, Little Italy, the Latino and Jewish neighborhoods, etc., all that is capitalism. These are examples of moral capitalism where everyone thrived. I'm not saying everyone thrived equally but I'm saying there was a sense of collective prosperity and very little exploitation.

The extreme version of capitalism practiced by most corporations today sees profit as the only things that matters and will engage in all kinds of destructive activities, both legal and illegal, to increase their revenue.

So it's the same capitalist principles in action, but with different outcomes. Because the people running the respective systems had different intentions and different priorities.

 

[GPBear]

Yeah exactly. That's why it's the foundation of Communist theory. It's like this,

In capitalism, every individual is looking out for their best interests because it benefits the good of mankind in the most optimal way. So like an individual finger.

Socialism is like 5 capitalist fingers coming together to form a hand. If a society says every individual is looking out for their best interest, then we all have the same single outlook (go for ours).

And then Communism is like the individuals in the society realizing they all have the singular mindset of Socialism. Like the five fingers becoming a singular fist.

Socialism and Communism cannot exist without a free established Capitalist state before it. It's jumping planes of mindset, from capitalism up to socialism, from socialism up to communism

 

[Blackking]

Only people can be moral agents... what exactly are we suppose to prove? that capitalism isnt a person?

I didn't say moral agents... said moral bases. ....

So in this case you can say that capitalism is an evil system built on and maintained by oppression. ..

or you can say that the agents and controllers of capitalism are evil.

Or you can say it's fair and good.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_economy

 

[GPBear]

Not to nitpick, but morals are what people in society agree upon, while ethics are some metaphysical platonic outside system of rules and guidelines that govern humanity.

I think technically, every system of oppression has been morally justified, slavery to nazis. Ethically is a different story

 

[Street Knowledge]

In order to succeed in this American society you have to practice capitalism. So it's either get with the plan or end up in poverty and irrelevance

 

[JahFocus CS]

Originally I wasn't going to reply to this, but I saw so much misinformation that I had to ... you know, people are wrong on the internet, gotta reply, yada yada

EDIT: Accidentally pressed Post Reply prematurely . I will put together a proper response this evening.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

cuba, iraq, iran, libya would be successful nations had they not fuq with them. libya was doing much better than other countries. iraq too before they decided to abandon the petro dollar and were falsely invaded. syria too.

the so called capitalist zionists though will not let these other successful systems develop and will use all sorts of economic intimidation, sactions, threats and even outright war against them. they actually admire communism and are turning the united states into a socialist state cause capitalism can only take them so far.

Cuba was never going to be successful. You can't just turn the Las Vegas of the tropics into a version of Moscow overnight.

Libya was doing...poorly BECAUSE of their leader. Dude was a complete and oppressive dikk. Don't believe the hype. They were stable...not prosperous.

Iran? Joke

Iraq? Really?

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

life is hard and death is certain, capitalism is used in America
deal with it

I know this was probably said with sarcasm or cynicism but basically this. America is a business. It's not changing. You have take it.

 

[tmonster]

I know this was probably said with sarcasm or cynicism but basically this. America is a business. It's not changing. You have take it.

yes yes let them eat cake!

 

[badhat]

Not to nitpick, but morals are what people in society agree upon, while ethics are some metaphysical platonic outside system of rules and guidelines that govern humanity.

I think technically, every system of oppression has been morally justified, slavery to nazis. Ethically is a different story

No, morals and ethics are used synonymously among people actually working in ethics. You're describing moral realism vs. moral anti-realism.

 

[badhat]

Hence Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

yes yes let them eat cake!

we'll bring you the baker and the baker's wife

 

[CHL]

Society should have this debate after 200 years of "free"'market capitalism, no interference from government. What could go wrong? Market failure? Negative externalities? Don't exist.


















oh wait, no one would be around to have the debate, and the Earth would be much warmer.

 

[DEAD7]

Society should have this debate after 200 years of "free"'market capitalism, no interference from government. What could go wrong? Market failure? Negative externalities? Don't exist.


















oh wait, no one would be around to have the debate, and the Earth would be much warmer.

Pretend govt's aren't the biggest murderers, polluters and pillagers of the planet brehs