Lets Talk About The Moral Basis of Capitalism

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Capitalism has no morals, the morality is created outside of it by the environment it is used in

For capitalism to work in a moral fashion you need individual rights and economic rights

Individual rights means things like the right to choose your leader, rule of law not the rule of men, freedom of speech, religion etc

Economic rights means things like access to property rights, right to make your own contracts, and right to access the market

With the addition and enforcement of individual rights and economic rights capitalism can become a morally superior system
 
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Capitalism has no morals, the morality is created outside of it by the environment it is used in

For capitalism to work in a moral fashion you need individual rights and economic rights

Individual rights means things like the right to choose your leader, rule of law not the rule of men, freedom of speech, religion etc

Economic rights means things like access to property rights, right to make your own contracts, and right to access the market

With the addition and enforcement of individual rights and economic rights capitalism can become a morally superior system
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All the anti-capitalism people can create a picket march in front of Jay-Z's home, tell him to sell all his cars and property, and then share all his money with all the poor to the point where his total personal assets would then equal $18,000, and then he would have to move into a Section 8 apartment... because all his work that he put into earning money and growing his businesses via capitalism was morally wrong.
See what he thinks about that.

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it's not jay-z's job to take care of the people. not my job to give $1 to the bum outside the liquor store either. the govt should create and enforce fair system as much as possible.. and not allow it to be monopolized..
 

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Capitalism has no morals, the morality is created outside of it by the environment it is used in

For capitalism to work in a moral fashion you need individual rights and economic rights

Individual rights means things like the right to choose your leader, rule of law not the rule of men, freedom of speech, religion etc

Economic rights means things like access to property rights, right to make your own contracts, and right to access the market

With the addition and enforcement of individual rights and economic rights capitalism can become a morally superior system


it's not jay-z's job to take care of the people. not my job to give $1 to the bum outside the liquor store either. the govt should create and enforce fair system as much as possible.. and not allow it to be monopolized..

some people say it's the greatest system.

Some say it only exist because of oppression and can only continue if some people suffer.




What do you feel about this? ? :usure::usure:


Morality Requires Freedom

All human beings have natural rights – either endowed by their Creator or inherent in their nature, depending on whom you ask – and have a moral obligation to respect the rights of others. Natural rights impose the negative obligation not to interfere with someone else's liberty. Thus, it is morally illegitimate to use coercion against someone who does not first undertake the use of force. The role of government, as recognized by America's founders, is to protect man's natural rights.

This kind of freedom involves far more than simple democracy. It demands a protected private sphere within which an individual can pursue his freely chosen norms, actions, and ends without the arbitrary intervention of others. And this freedom is necessary for individual morality.

There can be no morality without responsibility and no responsibility without self- determination. Responsible self-determination implies rationality, honesty, self-control, productiveness, and perseverance. In order to provide the maximum self-determination for each individual, the state should be limited to maintaining justice and defending against internal or external coercion, thus protecting life, liberty, and property.

A social system such as capitalism is a system of relationships and cannot be moral or immoral in the sense that a person can be – only individuals can be moral agents. However, a social system can be moral in its effects if it promotes the possibility and likelihood of moral behavior by individuals who act within it. It follows, then; that there is a moral imperative to create a political and economic system that permits the greatest possibility for self-determination and moral agency. Capitalism is that system.:francis:

Capitalism is itself only a means and requires individual participants to decide on the ends to be pursued. No economic system can make people good. The best that an economic system can do is to allow people to be good. But morality and virtue require that individuals be free to be immoral and of bad character. Only when an individual has choice and bears responsibility for his actions can he be moral. Capitalism, more than other economic systems, allows the exercise of individual free will. Thus, though capitalism cannot guarantee a moral society, it is necessary for one.
 

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capitalism isn't immoral until it becomes so.

It's ok if you notice people need a certain service, so you provide that service

It's another thing to notice people in an impoverished area need this service, but they have no transportation, so you charge them an even higher price b/c they have no choice.



If ur selling lemonade outside of a park on a hot summer day, that's capitalism. If a natural disaster occurs, people lose everything & are hungry/thirtsy, and you set-up shop immediately to sell lemonade at a higher price, that's also capitalism.

I'll let you figure out which one is moral/immoral
 

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As we advance technologically to where we can create our resources and simply make what we need everything will naturally go back to socialism unless technological progress is intentionally hindered.
 

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capitalism isn't immoral until it becomes so.

It's ok if you notice people need a certain service, so you provide that service

It's another thing to notice people in an impoverished area need this service, but they have no transportation, so you charge them an even higher price b/c they have no choice.



If ur selling lemonade outside of a park on a hot summer day, that's capitalism. If a natural disaster occurs, people lose everything & are hungry/thirtsy, and you set-up shop immediately to sell lemonade at a higher price, that's also capitalism.

I'll let you figure out which one is moral/immoral
nothing wrong with that. a compassionate businessman will set up shop and sell lemonade at a cheaper price.. the market will take care of itself.
but he shouldn't be able to pay police to frustrate the other business man or use his cousins in the media to hurt the other businessman's brand.

whites systematically hurt black businessmen and aren't brought to justice.



we're still waiting on the jp morgan and goldman sachs jews to be brought to justice.
 

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some people say it's the greatest system.

Some say it only exist because of oppression and can only continue if some people suffer.




What do you feel about this? ? :usure::usure:
they got nets around the buildings to prevent the chinese from committing suicide.
they bombing arabs cause wall street is out there looking for new grounds for profit and what's left is bombing syria, iraq, iran, nigeria...
they gotta keep the confusion in congo cause they wall street is making trillions off them.

who's speaking against this but the real activist coli militant kritic @kp404
who is telling negros to stop being brainwashed from buying euro fakkitry jewish brands and keep that money to take care of their families and their communities:usure:...
who are the real people encouraging the black community to look for trap queens and let her hit the bando :usure:...
who is enslaving and killing people under the name of capitalism:usure:...

Morality Requires Freedom

All human beings have natural rights – either endowed by their Creator or inherent in their nature, depending on whom you ask – and have a moral obligation to respect the rights of others. Natural rights impose the negative obligation not to interfere with someone else's liberty. Thus, it is morally illegitimate to use coercion against someone who does not first undertake the use of force. The role of government, as recognized by America's founders, is to protect man's natural rights.

This kind of freedom involves far more than simple democracy. It demands a protected private sphere within which an individual can pursue his freely chosen norms, actions, and ends without the arbitrary intervention of others. And this freedom is necessary for individual morality.

There can be no morality without responsibility and no responsibility without self- determination. Responsible self-determination implies rationality, honesty, self-control, productiveness, and perseverance. In order to provide the maximum self-determination for each individual, the state should be limited to maintaining justice and defending against internal or external coercion, thus protecting life, liberty, and property.

A social system such as capitalism is a system of relationships and cannot be moral or immoral in the sense that a person can be – only individuals can be moral agents. However, a social system can be moral in its effects if it promotes the possibility and likelihood of moral behavior by individuals who act within it. It follows, then; that there is a moral imperative to create a political and economic system that permits the greatest possibility for self-determination and moral agency. Capitalism is that system.:francis:

Capitalism is itself only a means and requires individual participants to decide on the ends to be pursued. No economic system can make people good. The best that an economic system can do is to allow people to be good. But morality and virtue require that individuals be free to be immoral and of bad character. Only when an individual has choice and bears responsibility for his actions can he be moral. Capitalism, more than other economic systems, allows the exercise of individual free will. Thus, though capitalism cannot guarantee a moral society, it is necessary for one.
 

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it's not jay-z's job to take care of the people. not my job to give $1 to the bum outside the liquor store either. the govt should create and enforce fair system as much as possible.. and not allow it to be monopolized..
Really? What you are asking for is for the same thing indirectly, but taxing the rich more. Is Jay-Z rich? Yes. Tax him more? Yes. Why? To take away more of money he earned to pay it out to people who are on welfare. What's the difference between that and just telling him to give away his money to the poor? Because it is putting the onus of that act on the government via taxation. That's why. You're rationalizing it all.
 

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Really? What you are asking for is for the same thing indirectly, but taxing the rich more. Is Jay-Z rich? Yes. Tax him more? Yes. Why? To take away more of money he earned to pay it out to people who are on welfare. What's the difference between that and just telling him to give away his money to the poor? Because it is putting the onus of that act on the government via taxation. That's why. You're rationalizing it all.
it's not jay-z's, oprah, floyd mayweather or my job to give money to poor people. $2 or $100, or $30,000 will not help their situation in an unjust so called capitalist system.

in a real system jay-z probably wouldn't even be a rapper and if he was he'd be worth 3 billion by now like lyor cohen or iovine who have no skill in anything.

jay, oprah, floyd and myself are held back in this so called capitalist system. i should be worth at least 2 billion :sadbron:
 

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it's not jay-z's, oprah, floyd mayweather or my job to give money to poor people. $2 or $100, or $30,000 will not help their situation in an unjust so called capitalist system.

in a real system jay-z probably wouldn't even be a rapper and if he was he'd be worth 3 billion by now like lyor cohen or iovine who have no skill in anything.

jay, oprah, floyd and myself are held back in this so called capitalist system. i should be worth at least 2 billion :sadbron:
Right, it isn't your job. But that's what socialism and communism say. Think about it. Then vote Republican.
 
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